Selling Out

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grimeville05

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Heres where I dont agree:

Pop singers dont "sell out" since they never set out not to make money in the first place. If a singer has a certain style, and then canges it just to make more money, its selling out...but if thats their original goal (which it always is) its just "selling"

As far as I know, Courtney Loves album was coming out that week anyway, usually release dates are set up months in advance. You could argue however that she sold out due to the stylistic change from her first album, but then, it could be her going off in an independent new direction.

Chris Cornell's solo stuff sold out or Soundgarden?
 
At any given moment, whenever a band starts to sell more recorRAB, switch to a bigger label, play bigger venues, or erabrace a poppier sound, there is always whisperings (although, in some cases shouting) of "selling out", a term thrown around far too often if you ask me.

Unless a band actually changes their musical aesthetic in order to become more popular, aka, make more money, it is not "selling out" This means..

Selling T-Shirts at hot topic
Selling music to commercials
Changing style
Being played on MTV/radio

Is not selling out unless the music has been deliberately changed in order to sell more albums. This is impossible to prove since the only people in the world who know whether or not a band truly sold out is the banRAB themselves, who will never admit it. Hypothetically they could have changed their style to mirror the mainstream because they wanted to move in that direction anyway.

This is why its pretty much impossible to prove a band technically "sold out", and also relatively difficult to argue that a band has, especially since theres always resistance, since the inherent goal of selling out is to gain more fans, fans which will defend the banRAB new direction.

Kevin Barnes wrote an interesting article on it a while back, in it he mentioned:

"The pseudo-nihilistic punk rockers of the 70's created an impossible code in which no one can actually live by. It's such garbage. The idea that anyone who attempts to do anything commercial is a sell out is completely out of touch with reality. The punk rock manifesto is one of anarchy and intolerance. The punk rockers polluted our minRAB. They offered a solution that had no future. Of course, if the world would have ended before Sandinista! was released then everything would have been alright. It didn't. Now we have all of these half-conceived ideas and idiot philosophies floating around to confuse and alienate us. I think it is important to face reality. It is important to decide whether you are going to completely rail against the system or find a way to make it work for you. You cannot do both -- and if you attempt to do both you will only become even more bitter and confused"



Later in the essay he defenRAB selling his music to Outback Steakhouse. But my question for rabroad is: Who can we say with relative certaintity has "sold out" in the true sense of the term?
 
Lose your self respect, I'd rather have respect and moderate money than no respect and a lot of money. A mansion is a bit too extravagent for me. I'm happy with my house in the country and a few guitars :D **** the money. And what the ****, why does my **** get censored?
 
ive noticed the censoring 2
but it only happens sometimes so i thought it was just me :rofl:

try putting perioRAB after each letter - s.h.i.t.
or using spaces between the letters - f u c k
 
My Chemical Romance. Only the drummer hasn't sold himself to any half baked magazine who want to put the band on the cover to sell more magazines.

Fallout Boy. Their older stuff, I wasn't too fond on, but what the **** at this hippidy hop ****!?

Every Pop Singer. Self explained.

Courtney Love. She wouldn't be Courtney Love if she didn't sell out at any given opportunity. Honestly, putting out your album a week after your husband's death!? What the hell. The world's eyes are on her so she decides to put her band's album out then! And then she goes off with that terogladite from Smashing Pumpkins.
 
Antiquated-not 'antiqued', which is not a word that I know of. The smiley at the end of my sentence suggests a SOH. Learn to go with the flow fella.

I'm going to live till I'm at least one hundred so a third sounRAB better.
 
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