Power Hungry & Paranoid Maniacs

So, has anyone seen people like these?

I know that there are many tracker staff members who love telling invite forums what to do and why. It makes them feel like they run BT or something (they do;)), but some people just want to control every aspect of it.
 
Thanks for that.

but if i had put more thought into it, or at least for 1 second, thought that what they did do, they were going to do, i would have never mentioned the idea in the first place.

btw the idea is in the WTAW thread but you will have to go back awhile to find it.
Don't make me dig for something in that thread :wacko:
My 2 cents, and you will have to read between the lines a lot.

I don't remember exactly when it happened, but whoever you may blame for such sudden action and lack of public explanations, is not a part of the current staff. The current staff has been trying to clean up some mess, to evolve to the next level, but this can't and won't be possible to do if we are alone in this. And it can't be solved just in a snap.
We're not starting from the scratch, we're starting from behind it. I wouldn't go as far as to ask you for help, because you've done enough to grant you the right to direct criticism, I would only ask for the benefit of the doubt.
We face already enough opposing forces, those same who give title to this thread.

I really can't go much deeper into details than this. For now.
 
Woo, your knowledge of the most awesome and secretive of forums makes you pretty damn ***** cool.
Yeah I KNOW he was thinking that as he typed it. How insighful of you!

(Gee rart, I never knew you had that sort of attitude.)

And for the record, I see no point in discussing other private forums here anyway, but when it comes info discussion, how does making a simple comment about them automatically mean one is some self-leet prick or something? :rolleyes:
 
well i gave you a link to it lol but edited my post to do it.

OK I am well over the decision that was made, I dont hold grudges, or at least not for long, I was just trying to explain that not all of us are power hungry, and some of us have tried to change things for the better hopefully but fallen on deaf ears.

and i really wish you luck with whatever your endeavours are, now i wont go into details, but an X-staff member from here tried to speak out against some things, was accused of siding with the trackers, and got booted off the staff.

so if whoever is behind this thinks they can change things, again all i can say is good luck, as its never worked before.
 
So, has anyone seen people like these?

I know that there are many tracker staff members who love telling invite forums what to do and why. It makes them feel like they run BT or something (they do;)), but some people just want to control every aspect of it.

Whats the point of this thread?

Anyway sure there is always bad people everywhere you go (as well as paranoid people)...
Also if this was ran by tracker staff members there would be no trading section.

The real control is right in front of your eyes (the screen :P)
 
There is nothing 'Cool' about going against tracker rules, which are drafted keeping in mind the safety of 'end users'.

To a certain extent, I have agree with what n00bz0r is saying here.

While I'm all for freedom of speech and speaking for yourself rather than peddling to the favor of tracker staff(which I have expressed my opinion of multiple times here), there's a certain point where it crosses from simple expression of opinion to outright hostility.

This thread just seems to almost evocate a response that it's "cool" to stand out and rebel against tracker staff, which is no way what I would, in any way, believe to fit in with the idea of freedom of expression.

The point is to treat staff as if they were any other regular member here, not as if they were worse.
 
Again, I don't know exactly who you're talking about, but I can only guess it's the same person who got booted because he was handing out user's information to the trackers. It's quite easy to distort the reasons and look like he was doing the right thing. Call it siding with the trackers, I call it breaking FST's confidence.

This site can't give personal info. It's completely against its philosophy, and it would be suicide.
And for any normal person, like I am, it's a dilemma not to hand out info when some invite seller was caught, or a known cheater.
I just take a deep breath and think: I can not do this, it would ruin any trust the members have on us.

Of course the trackers would love if we did that. Damn, there are so many ways to make FST popular on the eyes of the trackers, but all of them break much of what we preserve the most: freedom of speech and individual privacy.

Which DOESN'T happen anywhere else. Period.
 
Its not the fact we have no control that gets on most tracker staRAB nerves (well mine anyway), its the fact there is only give from the tracker staff (those that do give accounts to members of FST) but no receiving.

Now I dont want much, (actually i dont really want anything), tbh i have never ever asked for a traders details, nor will I ever ask, nor have I receieved any details without asking, I am not saying that it does not happen, but I have no evidence that it does, but me personally have never got anything like that.

but lets take an example and yes skizo no need to reply, I am only stating this again to show i had the best interests of trackers and FST at heart.

It was me that came up with the WTO table, with the names/torrents.members etc etc. This was when Comm Rep were about (or at least we thought we were), so me, in my eureka moment, thought what better way to get more comm reps, and a better repartoir between trackers and FST.

My idea was for any staffer from those trackers listed, that would like comm rep on here, they could have 2-4 columns nulled (so a 0 value), and in turn we would help members out on here that had trouble with our trackers and to give invites out sporadically.

So give and take.

But they took my idea, and got rid of comm rep completely, and basically just said, this is FST we dont have to bend to tracker staff, I was hmm wtf lol

tbh I do not mind this place, its just the attitude of this place i do not like, like I said previously, i dont want control, if a member of here said he wanted control of BCG i would tell him where to go, but just a tiny bit of working together, however small would be good imho, not we are FST whatever tracker staff would like, tough shit, we dont have to listen to you at all.

as i recall as well, a tracker staffer posted his tracker rules on trading, and they banned him from here, all he was really doing was telling members from here that if you trade on his tracker, you run the risk of getting banned, but they banned him.

I hate all this fighting between trackers and FST, I have tried my damndest to get at least some reportoir going, but failed miserably, they see it as us wanting control (just like this thread and caballo) we or at least me, just want some give and take, not all take.
 
So, has anyone seen people like these?

I know that there are many tracker staff members who love telling invite forums what to do and why. It makes them feel like they run BT or something (they do;)), but some people just want to control every aspect of it.

and your point is? :huh:
honestly, I don't understand the rationale behind creation of such threads. Invite forums depend on peddling invites issued by trackers, and its not the other way round.
Try to look at the situation dispassionately..without any bias/ ego..I dont see a problem with tracker staffers suggesting forum owners on ways to improve the way in which they function. 'Invite' forums which are known to function in a transparent way end up staying on good books of tracker staffers, and reap the benefits in the long run.

Consider the following situation.. an invite tree consisting of 5% members from a forum well known for trading and invite selling runs at a risk of getting banned completely as soon as it is discovered. On the other hand, an invite tree with 50% members from an invite forum with a certain degree of transparency has better chances of continuing unmarked and enabled. (Just check up the number of guys who visit tracker support channels.. you'll understand what i am talking about)

Tracker staffers do NOT ask for complete or even partial control of forums. If at all certain suggestions of staffers are taken into consideration while formulating the rules of a forum, it goes a long way in making the 'end users' feel comfortable enough while using forums on trackers actively without the fear of their off site activities catching up with them later. (People from shady invite forums do not participating in activities on trackers coz they fear getting noticed and scrutinized. It happens more often than not.)

There is nothing 'Cool' about going against tracker rules, which are drafted keeping in mind the safety of 'end users'. Its sad to see short sightedness and immaturity of members who choose to become outlaws by breaking rules in front of their peers for their 2 minutes of fame, and desperate attempts of trying to look cool.. At the end of the day, the outlaw becomes another disabled user on a tracker, who tried to compromise the security of the site.

anyway, enough ranting for the day.
Peace
 
To stoi have noted your comments about this and other things before as its clear youve had a foul taste for the site. Had asked then if you wanted to talk on MSN but you werent interested. Your always welcome to have talk if you want. Think that you still know MSN if you want...
 
Yeah I KNOW he was thinking that as he typed it. How insighful of you!

(Gee rart, I never knew you had that sort of attitude.)

And for the record, I see no point in discussing other private forums here anyway, but when it comes info discussion, how does making a simple comment about them automatically mean one is some self-leet prick or something? :rolleyes:

I think productive threads like these bring it out in me.
 
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