Palm Desktop 4.1.4/Agendus/Tungsten T

[osu2014]

Hi there,

I recently gave agendus the flick. It is so bloated with stuff and things still don't work the way they should. On my Tungsten T I have not been able to get the wallpaper feature to work at all and Agendus support has not been able to tell me why.

All that aside, I have found the original datebook, todo2 and redo covers most of the features I need.

I recently thought I would check to see if the Palm Desktop had been updated. I used v4.1 (gave outlook the flick as well). When I found version 4.1.4 was available and compatable with my Tungsten T (according to PalmOne Site) I downloaded it and installed it.

I was impressed with the added features albeit not features that were available on my particular handheld. What I really liked was the category option for datebook entries. I quickly created categories and colour schemes for them. Great. I thought - even if they don't transfer to the Tungsten T they are great for the Desktop anyway.

When I did my hotsync all seemed well until I discovered a series of repeating events were suddenly being misinterpreted as being over midnight and so the endtime was reduced to 11:55pm. The problem is that the repeating events in question did not go for more than 2 hours and not even near midnight. This fault kept happening even after I corrected the mucked up entries.

End result was my datebook got mucked up and a backup was needed to fix it all. I had to reload v4.1 of the Palm Desktop to get everything working right again.

Now I am wondering whether Agendus links to the categories in Palm Desktop and if I reinstalled it all again with Desktop 4.1.4 would the problem no longer exist because Agendus is handling the sync?

Anyone with advice or similar experiences?

 

[zeltcin14]

Let me tell you what I know about "desktop conduit stuff," which sadly would fit on the head of a pin:

Your T was one animal - the handhelds the 4.1.4 was made for are another. There were improvements to the PIMS - and then the desktop had some glitches so there was an upgrade - wait . . . no, then there was an upgrade to the PIMS on the T3, and then the desktop sorta worked . . . . it's fuzzy and if you think about it long enough blood will shoot out your nose and you'll pass out. I think this is where the problem is: "slots" for your PIM information going in one place on the desktop app and another on your T.

The one to ask is Mooseman . . . with my VERY limited knowledge I'd say leave the older Desktop version to use with your T and don't even try to Bring Agendus into it at all.

I use Agendus, a T3 and just RECENTLY upgraded to the 4.1.4 - in fact I UNINSTALLED the one that came with the T3 and installed the 4.1.4 "fresh."

Here's how whacky the desktop thing can get: Despite my removing whole CONDUITS out of 4.1.4 and the previous one, like Notepad and PalmPhotos (JackSpratted on handheld) -- and having NO PROBLEMS . . . I removed some "sample images" like "Boat on a lake, lizard doing something cute," etc, . . . . and 4.1.4 failed to open. "Looking for . . . . file, please instruct where in temp to find . . . ." - no workie. Reinstalled. Worked. Deleted the PHOTOS ONLY AGAIN (we're talking about jpegs here!!) . . . crash, no open, looking for "file."

It's certainly strange and I'm not sure what the fix is other than do what you did . . . use the "dedicated" desktop for the "corresponding dedicated handheld." I personally can't see how Agendus would HELP at all with any of it, but I could very well be wrong. Again, Mooseman is the "conduit king." Try PM'ing him.

My result: I left the jpegs, I hotsync, it syncs, I do something else. It works but frankly I only use the desktop as an oversized backup utility; thank God Docs2Go, TextSync and Bonsai syncs all work well!

 

[Arty Stick man]

Agendus does not impact the conduit at all unless you install the PC client version. It does "force" the Outlook data into certain databases on improved PIM devices such as the T3 and TE but there is never any change to the conduit on the handheld only version.

PalmOne has never had good bundled conduits for Outlook and have recently released several updates for specific devices to those conduits to prove it.

I'd suspect a couple of things might be the culprit in this case:

1. Possibly a remnant of Agendus was left on the T and a remnant can cause just about any number of problems so depending upon how you deleted the program might be an issue.

2. The Palm Desktop application....if you either delete the "business" category or the "personal" category the P D does not like that. It will not no where they went and it will foul or corrupt the database.

3. Corruption to the database as a result of an intrepretation issue caused by the new desktop.

#3 is the most likely cause and is highly likely if you ran the install update with anything running in the background on the desktop.

I'm down at our training center and our IT guys are telling us that the release of SP2 by Microsoft has caused several issues on our local system and can impact installs and corruption.

They are re-issuing the old installation rules which many people ignore and that is to turn everything off and not have anything running in the background especially Firewall and Antivirus software during an installation.

If you've reinstalled and all is well then I wouldn't fret it much but if your still having issues then I'd recommend a hard reset of the Tungsten T and reinstallation of the original database.

Now to give you an example of "corruption" potential.....I advised a user over in the Agendus Beta Forum who had a Kyocera 7135 that couldn't get his appointments to show up on his phone to delete Agendus, hard reset the phone, save his backup directory to "oldbackup" and then hot sync.

This process allowed him to reinstall Agendus and hot sync. Agendus now worked fine. He then reinstalled the items in his "oldbackup" directory that were programs and databases and left out the "stuff he didn't know what it was" and he was back up to 100% and Agendus was working perfectly.

Most PIM replacements don't impact the conduits there are exceptions but those typically don't use the default database such as Beyond Contacts which comes with an application and conduit.

I might add that the Kyocera guy had been using Datebk5 before trying Agendus. That's not to say that DB5 caused the issue but when you start "mixing" similar programs that are constantly changing to adapt to the new devices....who knows what combinations of software will cause a conflict?

Was Windows XP combatible with all of the "current" technology when it was released?

I think you'd be well served to use a program called Unistall Manager. It puts new applications into a "sandbox" and tracks all files either created as part of a new install. You can see that all the file names and reference them for future use such as deletion. It's a great program to track and remove all of the files that the Palm default delete program does not remove.


Or you can take a path that I do upon occasion....that is a hot sync, hard reset, rename the backup directory to "backup old" and then hot sync.

This way I know that there are no "remants" laying around goofing up the system.