one part about The Dark Knight I don't understand...

[sandlandfan]

In Batman Begins, Batman defeats Ras by leaving him on a derailed train. "I'm not going to kill you, but I don't have to save you"

In The Dark Knight, Batman repeatedly saves the Joker from certain death (falling, diverting his batcycle, etc.). Why not simply say "I'm not going to kill you, I'm just not going to save you from falling 100 stories to your death"? Obviously, Joker is a much bigger threat than Ras.

That is not in sync with the whole "batman needs to become darker and more serious to defeat the joker" mentality

 

[RRS]

the goodness of humanity defeated the joker

 

[City Lights]

I'm going look at it as Ras is the exception not the rule.
If batman played judge jury and executioner then he is no better off than the villains he is fighting.

 

[aerica4]

nothing would defeat the joker except him dying. That was something they wanted to showcase in TDK... he doesn't want money or power, he just wants to see the world burn.

showing him mercy isn't going to rehabilitate him. The only way to stop him is to kill him.

 

[calolines]

he died irl

 

[Kunmui]

never forget

 

[jtkirk1337]

Well first of all he had matured as a crime fighter, and the Joker WANTED Batman to kill him.

 

[bring erica the horizon]

I think thats the money right there.

 

[Physics 101]

Ra's brought about his own demise.

 

[xXCuriousnessXx]

the train would have crashed into the building anyways...right?

 

[Whistlepig]

Yeah I sensed that a lot throughout the movie. Especially when he was standing there shooting innocent people yelling "HIT ME". Whenever he came close to dying he seemed to get excited like when he was falling, which was fucked up lol. I know he's getting a lot of sack riding and some people don't think he did that good of a job, but honestly I've never been more impressed by a character. They didn't need CGI to hide horrible dialog, in fact I was intranced everytime he spoke. I think it's a shame he's dead, he gave a fucking remarkable proformance as the Joker.

 

[Teria J]

Plot hole? Films arent perfect in every aspect. Look at how the League of Shadow poisoned Gotham.....by cutting open a pipe and pouring in the hallucinogen; apparently the concept of pressure dont exist in Gotham. Or how about a machine that vaporize water, apparently the citizens of Gotham isnt made of 70% water.

 

[painted chair4]

I'm gonna go with the obvious answer:

Raz was going to die because the train was derailed by Gordon, not Batman. Technically, Batman wasn't directly responsible for Raz's death. So he chose not to save him.

But in The Dark Knight. Running over the Joker - that's a murder. Pushing him off the ledge and letting him fall - that's a murder.

So he saved him.

 

[teloite26]

gordon couldn't have done it without the batmobile ... so it's fox's fault.

 

[Stunner Sahil]

I want to know why Two-Face still wore the suit that was all burned up.

 

[Carlos E]

half his face is melted off.

you really think he gives a shit about his suit?

 

[Kunmui]

it's a movie bro, and it was a realistic approach to half the entire wardrobe being different, too.

 

[Kunmui]

If it wasnt 100% cotton, chances are it melted to his skin and the surgeon never took it off yet.

 

[Go Cardinals]

actually, i think when he got in the car crash it messed with the right side of the suit. you know, burn marks and scrapes. maybe a bit unrealistic, but that may be the plausibility (is that a word?) of a half n half suit

 

[Sexy Male Stripper L]

No. Wayne Tower was the center of the rail network. It's just a huge station like Grand Central except it's situated on Wayne Tower since Bruce's father started the metro.