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-- -- getting breaking news on this NSA story set to release a a full list.
-- -- terror plot stopped by the agency's phone surveillance program that disclosure.
Expected to come today House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers.
Over the weekend insisting that the program something he knows a lot about.
The program is a good thing.
It is absolutely overseen by the legislature the judicial branch and the executive branch has lots of protections built in.
That you if you can see that just the number of cases where we've actually stopped a plot.
I think Americans will come to a different conclusion that all the misleading rhetoric I've heard over the last few weeks.
Peter Brookes former CIA officer and a senior fellow with The Heritage Foundation Peter how -- -- good morning to you.
About one -- I thought I -- 21 as the number of plots that have been disrupted.
Is that.
Number sound right -- I've heard.
I've heard dozens so like you know that that might just about -- to doesn't -- -- doesn't right.
I've also heard that may be more than twenty countries.
So we're talking about dozens of plots that have been erupted in more than twenty countries that will then directly that will be directly related to the NSA surveillance program is that what you're saying.
That's what we're on that's my understanding will again have to see what general Alexander says this afternoon -- people are going to be listening.
Bill it's always hard to get credit for things that don't happen.
And -- plots don't happen I mean.
Here -- heritage we've even had we -- we keep a tally and we've had more than fifty Islamist based terrorist plot in this country since 9/11.
Now it could be but most people couldn't they know as I could name all fifty either we remember you know Boston Marathon bombing remember 9/11.
Fort Hood but there's so many others that are stopped and we don't want -- we don't want to throw away a program that perhaps is preventing those other 47 from happening.
-- you wonder when you know what could replace -- that could do.
A good job still and keep -- safe you mentioned -- I Keith Alexander he's the NSA director I've heard everybody speak.
And very glowing terms about the work this man does more not here to impugned him in anyway.
Probable weight when he comes out of -- were later today here's the problem story's been out there for two weeks.
And we've been told about one plot just one and that was here in New York -- well.
Fair enough bill it's very good point you know we got to be careful.
About be -- the exposure of intelligence sources and methods.
I mean this thing came out by an individual.
Who could you know cloak himself in the in the garb of a whistle blower.
But I look at it very differently he's exposed a very sensitive intelligence operation we don't know what information we've now missed.
Because of the exposure of this program it also comes at a time you know the IRS scandal the rifling -- reporters' emails.
You know that the -- -- -- bungling where people's trust the government isn't very good.
So it's gotten caught up in all of that -- -- notably general Alexander will be helped clear the air this afternoon about the importance of this program.
Thank you Peter you make a good point too it's hard to get credit for the things that do not happen.
We'll remember that's right thank you Peter -- there and --
-- -- getting breaking news on this NSA story set to release a a full list.
-- -- terror plot stopped by the agency's phone surveillance program that disclosure.
Expected to come today House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers.
Over the weekend insisting that the program something he knows a lot about.
The program is a good thing.
It is absolutely overseen by the legislature the judicial branch and the executive branch has lots of protections built in.
That you if you can see that just the number of cases where we've actually stopped a plot.
I think Americans will come to a different conclusion that all the misleading rhetoric I've heard over the last few weeks.
Peter Brookes former CIA officer and a senior fellow with The Heritage Foundation Peter how -- -- good morning to you.
About one -- I thought I -- 21 as the number of plots that have been disrupted.
Is that.
Number sound right -- I've heard.
I've heard dozens so like you know that that might just about -- to doesn't -- -- doesn't right.
I've also heard that may be more than twenty countries.
So we're talking about dozens of plots that have been erupted in more than twenty countries that will then directly that will be directly related to the NSA surveillance program is that what you're saying.
That's what we're on that's my understanding will again have to see what general Alexander says this afternoon -- people are going to be listening.
Bill it's always hard to get credit for things that don't happen.
And -- plots don't happen I mean.
Here -- heritage we've even had we -- we keep a tally and we've had more than fifty Islamist based terrorist plot in this country since 9/11.
Now it could be but most people couldn't they know as I could name all fifty either we remember you know Boston Marathon bombing remember 9/11.
Fort Hood but there's so many others that are stopped and we don't want -- we don't want to throw away a program that perhaps is preventing those other 47 from happening.
-- you wonder when you know what could replace -- that could do.
A good job still and keep -- safe you mentioned -- I Keith Alexander he's the NSA director I've heard everybody speak.
And very glowing terms about the work this man does more not here to impugned him in anyway.
Probable weight when he comes out of -- were later today here's the problem story's been out there for two weeks.
And we've been told about one plot just one and that was here in New York -- well.
Fair enough bill it's very good point you know we got to be careful.
About be -- the exposure of intelligence sources and methods.
I mean this thing came out by an individual.
Who could you know cloak himself in the in the garb of a whistle blower.
But I look at it very differently he's exposed a very sensitive intelligence operation we don't know what information we've now missed.
Because of the exposure of this program it also comes at a time you know the IRS scandal the rifling -- reporters' emails.
You know that the -- -- -- bungling where people's trust the government isn't very good.
So it's gotten caught up in all of that -- -- notably general Alexander will be helped clear the air this afternoon about the importance of this program.
Thank you Peter you make a good point too it's hard to get credit for the things that do not happen.
We'll remember that's right thank you Peter -- there and --