First of all, I'd like to say that I'm not narrow minded so I'm open to ideas and I'd enjoy a peaceful atmosphere. Thank you!
The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition). This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that 'smoke'. The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that 'smoke' material. God said in the Quran:
Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke...
[Noble Quran 41:11]
Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same 'smoke' we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous 'smoke', they formed and separated from each other. God said in the Quran:
Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?.. [Noble Quran 21:30]
Professor Alfred Kroner is one of the world's well-known geologists. He is a Professor of the Department of Geosciences, University of Mainz, Mainz, Germany. He said, "Thinking where Muhammad came from .. I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advance technological methods that this is the case." (From 'This is the Truth' [video]). Also he said, "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin."
check out this site : http://scienceislam.com/quran_miracles.php
cswolffe: thank you for your answer- i think it's a very good point. But the homogeneous smoke formed and serperated from eachother and God says "...the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?" I thought this was a bit more than a coincidence. I actually think that's the best argument they have against such points though. Also, what does plasma have to do with this homogeneous smoke? And how are ways that in the Quran, God could've recorded this factual happening to fit all definitions, but still be specific enough to leave evidence? That's an honest question, not just another arguement.
Blessed Cheesemaker : Also, thank you. I actually really like these debates but I'd like to correct you. The verse "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of dark mud" is not a statement of fact. It's actually recorded...
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud..."
Note the "as if" in the context. This is obviously a simile, a poetic phrase.
http://quran.com/18/85-86
Maurog III: Sorry, but I couldn't find a reference to your point saying I incorrectly stated " the earth is the center of the universe".
Oh wise one: I absolutely agree! Most of my family is Christian since I'm Norwegian, but I think the Bible is also full of facts.
Monkey...:
"Everyone looked to the sky back then- moreso than modern common man does today. The milky way looks like "cosmic smoke". Old Mohammed probably had observations about things, and he also knew a smattering of knowledge of the day from the Greeks, Romans, and Jews..."
You're correct, muslims had a strong history in astronomy...(http://www.scienceislam.com/muslims_science.php), but we're talking about making a connection and theory, which if you read, would prove happened before your time.
also about the clot: I'm happy to know you've done your own research, but would suggest you reading this http://www.scienceislam.com/quran_human_embryonic_development.php
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The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition). This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that 'smoke'. The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that 'smoke' material. God said in the Quran:
Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke...
[Noble Quran 41:11]
Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same 'smoke' we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous 'smoke', they formed and separated from each other. God said in the Quran:
Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?.. [Noble Quran 21:30]
Professor Alfred Kroner is one of the world's well-known geologists. He is a Professor of the Department of Geosciences, University of Mainz, Mainz, Germany. He said, "Thinking where Muhammad came from .. I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advance technological methods that this is the case." (From 'This is the Truth' [video]). Also he said, "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin."
check out this site : http://scienceislam.com/quran_miracles.php
cswolffe: thank you for your answer- i think it's a very good point. But the homogeneous smoke formed and serperated from eachother and God says "...the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?" I thought this was a bit more than a coincidence. I actually think that's the best argument they have against such points though. Also, what does plasma have to do with this homogeneous smoke? And how are ways that in the Quran, God could've recorded this factual happening to fit all definitions, but still be specific enough to leave evidence? That's an honest question, not just another arguement.
Blessed Cheesemaker : Also, thank you. I actually really like these debates but I'd like to correct you. The verse "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of dark mud" is not a statement of fact. It's actually recorded...
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud..."
Note the "as if" in the context. This is obviously a simile, a poetic phrase.
http://quran.com/18/85-86
Maurog III: Sorry, but I couldn't find a reference to your point saying I incorrectly stated " the earth is the center of the universe".
Oh wise one: I absolutely agree! Most of my family is Christian since I'm Norwegian, but I think the Bible is also full of facts.
Monkey...:
"Everyone looked to the sky back then- moreso than modern common man does today. The milky way looks like "cosmic smoke". Old Mohammed probably had observations about things, and he also knew a smattering of knowledge of the day from the Greeks, Romans, and Jews..."
You're correct, muslims had a strong history in astronomy...(http://www.scienceislam.com/muslims_science.php), but we're talking about making a connection and theory, which if you read, would prove happened before your time.
also about the clot: I'm happy to know you've done your own research, but would suggest you reading this http://www.scienceislam.com/quran_human_embryonic_development.php
verified by present day successful scientist