Nokia ships 3.5 to 4 million N8's

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Nokia seems to be doing pretty well with the N8. If it was compatible with my carrier, I'd love to give one a shot. I miss using Nokias.

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I have to admit that I keep looking at both the N8 and E7. I miss being able to do some things that I cannot do with my iPhone 4 without cracking it.

Advanced Call Manager? Joikuspot? I used to use those a lot when I had an E71-2. Then I went to an iPhone 3GS, and had to jailbreak it to do the same things. Now I'm on an iPhone 4, and have to jailbreak it to do the same things.

Now that Nokia have pretty decent touch screens, you just have to decide if it's worth sacrificing what some of us consider to be essential in order to have the Retina Display.

But on the other hand.... MobileMe pushes instantly and well, and apparently push is quite buggy on the N8.

Nobody makes the perfect smartphone. Everything's a compromise. :-)
 
The sales numbers are fine for 'placeholder status', it's not some giant flop like the Kin (or possibly WP7), but it's not really lighting the world on fire or anything, which Nokia kind of needed it to do.

Or do they need the N9 to sell in iPhone numbers, whenever it is they decide to release it?
 
The overall S^3 sales figure is more important obviously. Hopefully Nokia will comment on that officially in their Q4 financial report. In any event, seems that at least for the N8 demand has exceeded supply which is a good sign on one hand and bad on the other (Nokia not being able to overcome supply side contraints).

I don't think they expect or even necessarily need to sell the N9 in iPhone numbers as it is and will not be their only smarthphone model or even the only Meego model. But overall Nokia Meego will need to sell in the millions by end of 2012 I would imagine.

They did have that piechart sometime back indicating their expectations on shares of their OS platforms of their total sales.
 
I generally agree. My only doubt is for the sales prospects for Meego devices (phones + tablets).

WP7 showed how difficult it is for another major mobile OS to take hold. Meego asks for consumers to think about yet another.

Also, for devices coming at the tail end of 2011, Nokia doesn't really have any kind of scaled up tablet ecosystem, aside from Ovi Maps or Messaging, that'll translate to larger finger-touch friendly devices, or any type of content store. If they're planning on announcing partnerships and media deals, they're cutting it awfully close.

(It's also why I see Samsung's announced Galaxy player, that's going to compete with the iPod Touch, to have few sales. It's essentially a Touch without content or a PC software music and video sync client. They should ask iRiver, Cowon and Creative how that strategy worked out for them).
 
Anything in that report about C7 and C6-01 sales? They're also S^3. Anecdotally, it seems reasonably successful too! On a short trip to India last month, I actually saw as many N8s as I did C7s (2 each - not much of a sample, I also saw one iPhone4 ;) but gazillions of iPhone 3/2 etc)
 
Yup, it won't be easy for sure. But here again I think there may be HUGE regional differences on how succesful they will be. In certain countries/regions Nokia still has quite a bit of existing customers that are quite open to considering Nokia as their next device, and many of them actually desperately (oddly enough) wanting Nokia to bring out something exiting again. With Ovi Store finally picking up they should do ok on the phones side - tablets.. that's even tougher and the market is so unproven, outside of the iPad.

In the US.. well, the best they can do is probably to start a very slow and painful crawl back to some sort of relevancy and perhaps to something like 7-8% market share.. Unless indeed they strike some lucrative carrier and content deals. Thye are for sure trying hard with AT&T, I hear.
 
Usablenet has released a ton of apps specific to USA market (FedEx, Staples, CVS just a few), that can be used to search products, locate stores, track shipment, make hotel reservation. There are very nice and useful apps.
 
Whatever happened to that AT&T 'Calling All Innovators' thing Nokia was trumpeting some time ago? It seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

The U.S. claw back is going to be pre-tty hard. The first order of business is the 'Nokia' brand itself, since its been damaged here by years of association with Kyocera-type bodega burner phones, as seen on The Wire.

I sometimes still carry my Nokia E72 and when he caught sight of it, a friend joked if I began dabbling in the narcotics business, referring to Nokia as 'a drug dealer's phone' that you can get rid of when 5.0 is on to you.
 
That research firm's research is HIGHLY suspect. Using Google Trends to gauge N8 sales based on published sales numbers for other devices and their Trends likely won't deliver accurate results in the slightest. Obviously they're not using that data in exclusion, but I don't know that I'd trust it at all as part of my data input.

At any rate, 4M devices would be a pretty decent number for the N8 but I'm half expecting more, like 5M+. Maybe hoping for is the right word. There was tremendous pent-up Nokia demand going into Q4 and the N8 has some key hardware features going for it that a lot of people value highly. I'll be very interested to see how long of a tail the device's lifetime has too. Could they end up selling 15-20M N8s like they did with the 5800 or are product refresh cycles just too fast to allow it? Maybe a UI refresh could lengthen the N8's lifespan?

I'm also quite curious about the C7 and C6-01. The C7 is available on contract in China so it ought to do well with the world's biggest population and sell some solid volumes but if you look at reviews for "HD" apps on Ovi Store, it seems like reviews from N8s outnumber reviews from C7s by something like 6-7:1. Where are all the C7 owners? For the C6-01, the difference is even larger.

EDIT: Jimmy, the contest closes on the 28th. Just in time for the X7 to go to AT&T, I guess.
 
it did nothing for their business in USA. with nokia distribution this level of sales is not surprising. if you want to see how nok is Really doing follow the stock price. it's stuck in da mud. nok needs better phones. they need phones that USA customers like and will buy. this gen of S3 phones isn't it. if you follow what's going on at Amazon with n8, it revealed lots of pent up demand for this phone, but buying, when you consider number of reviews submitted, seems to be petering out. you still can't get any other S3 phones on Amazon yet. I would say this launch was not what Nokia needed. It was ho hum at best.
 
the galaxy player on Android with 200k apps is far more compelling than those mp3 players that don't have apps or an ecosystem. google has a cloud music service coming in 2011. this will be the first real ipod touch competitor.
 
Nokia probably had no illusions about the N8 having any impact on the US market. They may have some minor illusions about the AT&T X7 of course. :D :p But I do think they realize that only with Meego COMBINED WITH major carrier support they could get a toe into the high end market again in the US.
 
I'm surprised that no one has said "I didn't realize that there were 3.5 - 4 million people in the world that don't know about Android, WP7 or the iPhone." :P
 
are you on a CDMA carrier...? any GSM carrier can use any of the frequencies the phone carries...

on another note, the C7 and C6-01 sales are far more important....
those will be the mega sellers along w/ the original C6....

I don't see Nokia putting much focus into the USA in 2011...
maybe a few phones for AT&T and T-Mobile, but as usual they will battle for the middle east, eastern asia, and their euro home markets...
Mexico, Canada, and the South Americas will get attention as usual...
but why bend over backward for the USA..?
 
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