Nokia N 80

yeah but we hve the 850! nana na na nana!!....oh yeah...that sucks!

but at least were smart enough to be developing another band that no one else will ever use so we can be our own tri band. Because of the US developers are going to have to develop phones with 6 bands. 5 gsm and one cdma....and they still wont work in Japan. GBJ has to be behind this somehow.
 
this is kind of wierd.... i think it does work here, there's just not the network in place yet for it. i know cingular is experimenting with the UMTS bands here, and my phone sometimes picks up a 3G network, but can't connect/no reception...
 
That is because you enable both GSM and UMTS in your phone. When the phone can't pick up signal from GSM, it will switch to UMTS and try to search for a signal. It will display 3G while it is search for UMTS.
I heard there are very very few N80 that support UMTS 1900. The rest is all UMTS 2100.

If you want to use 3G, don't get N80. N80 is NOT built for North America.
 
how interesting, i guess i have a 1900 band N80 then...
i'd still love to know the reason why it was just arbitrarily decided that 2100 is for europe and 1900 for the USA?
 
Much of the world uses 900MHz and 1800MHz for GSM. If there's any CDMA, it's on 450MHz. The 3G consortium decided to use 2100MHz for the downlink and 1900MHz for the uplink for UMTS because those aren't used except in North America, where 2100MHz is used for satellite communication and 1900MHz is the PCS band. The FCC cleared out part of the 2100MHz band, but the 1900MHz band is already in use, so they freed up part of the 1700MHz band to use instead of it.
Cingular (actually, AT&T Wireless) jumped the gun and decided not to wait for AWS, so they took some of their 1900MHz spectrum, got rid of some GSM carriers, and put UMTS up. Cingular is doing more of that now, and they will eventually put UMTS on the 850MHz band as well. AWS hasn't yet been deployed for public use by any carrier, and there are no phones that support it yet.
 
You misunderstood me. What I was trying to say is no matter your N80 supports UMTS 1900 or 2100, it will try to search for UMTS when it can't find GSM. I know my N80 only supports UMTS 2100, and I often see "3G" show up on my phone when there is no GSM signal. Most likely you have UMTS 2100 N80, too. Well, you can prove me wrong by going to an area where 3G is available.
 
My E61 frequently says 3G when the signal strength is unavailable. It's been confirmed that it's a false reading. No chance of EU 3Gs working here as it's the wrong frequency entirely. It's just a glitch.
 
The only 3G phones that will work with T-Mobile's 3G will probably be their's, since they chose the 1700MHz network. No handsets exist yet that will support this, and I highly doubt manufacturers will produce 1700MHz 3G phones outside of the ones T-Mobile will carry.
 
that is interesting because i have heard that t-mobile us will run on 2 spectrums: 1700 as well as 2100 MHz. its been said that some of the satelite spectrum has been freed for t-mobile UMTS network by the FCC
 
Source? The large spectrum auction that T-Mobile bid on was entirely 1700MHz for the United States. I DID find an article that said T-Mobile would use 2100MHz in Europe, but not in the US. The US just doesn't have that technology here. T-Mobile was bidding on a network that was already in place. I have not read anything anywhere that said T-Mobile has anything to do with 2100MHz in the United States.
 
i got the source off of google.com type in umts frequencies and it will give you the link to an encyclopedia. click on that and you should see it then. has anybody heard yet of any company planing on making a phone that supports umts 2100/1900 as well as quadband gsm?
 
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