Nokia E90 Vs N95 Which will you buy?

I'll get whichever one gets a US version with WCDMA 850/1900. I'm disgusted with Nokia at the moment for putting everything-except-Cingular-3G bands into the E90.

It's unacceptable, IMO!
 
Nokia e90 is now on the Europe nokia website. If its a repeat then sorry but I just saw it and did not see it posted here.

http://europe.nokia.com/A4346176

L~
 
Man .. to all the people complaining about US 3G. It's not US 3G.. it's Cingular 3G. Nokia is working with Tmobile to develop their network. Why would they deliver a phone that is only Cingular compatible when they can get both markets when Tmobile's network is up.

If you are mad that Nokia doesn't include Cingular's bands, then yell at Cingular for not working a deal like they did to get the Iphone don't yell at Nokia for not making its flaghsip phones proprietary in the US!


/rant

sorry ... I was pumped about the e90, but yeah I can get the bluetooth keyboard and say a n93 and have roughly the same concept for almost $400 cheaper and right now (as we know the e90 will suffer delays upon delays).

edit: right now neither. And while I know I will get "tired" of it being a restrictive P.o.S and will go back to Winmo / S60 eventually, I am a bit more excited to pick up the iphone before I get either one of these..
 
Cingular just eclipsed over 80,000,000 subscribers. Cingular is GSM in the U S of A!

Therefore Nokia needs to recognize and give us something we can spend our GD money on....t-mobile......paaleeaassee.

not to mention that t-mobile hasnt rolled out their 3g network yet so YES...Cingular is US3G as they're the only ones offering it.
 
shouting wasnt my intention at all.....it`s just that i was very excited that every single feature my previous nokia phones lacked is now available all in one piece.....the E90

@Jonny Bruha:

ur welcome...lol
 
yes, I am aware Cingular is the largest GSM provider in the US, but they are not the only one. Nokia has gone through Cingular twice for 3G and one was still born and the other is still being held in testing. The lack of a 3g Cingular phone is a Cingular issue. I am sure after the n80 and headache of the N75, Nokia isn't exactly thrilled to bend over for Cingular again. I still say for a phone to be US 3G its has to be a quadband 3G. I and millions of others on Tmobile people pay for cell service in this country. You guys don't get to dictate what is and isn't US 3G. If Cingular buys out T-mo, then I will say Cingular is US 3G, until then its a carrier issue and not a country issue.

US 3G is like US open wheel racing fractured and totally out of spec with the rest of the world.

Now, when Tmo gets its 3G network going and Nokia still doesn't put out a phone capable of getting 3G in the US, then we can say Nokia is properly ignoring the US.
 
T-mobile isnt sliced bread as they too have over 25,000,000 subscribers but they've yet to launch their 3G network. It seems that handsets in the modern era of cell phones have a much shorter life than we saw 5-6 years ago so Nokia neglecting us by not releasing jsut 1 "US capable" handset is still unacceptable IMO. I'm not asking for a branded US3G phone but just throw us a bone and enable one of their many current or upcoming phones with some G. I would love nothing more for T-mobile to roll out their 3G services so we can finally...and collectively say that Nokia is giving us the shaft. I wish there was a way to track the number of unbranded symbian users we have here in the US. If the figure is somewhere near 10,000,000 I'd say Nokia has a market for a top tier, US 3G enabled handset. I'm sure that number is rather lofty but does anyone really know. If it's 5million is that enough? I wish Nokia would set some goals for us and I would lead the mfn charge for them. Most of the Nitwits at my office have no friggin clue wtf a smart phone is...they think they've got one in our "office issue" crackberries but I would be the first to hook them into a S60 as the addition of 3G services wouldnt cost us anything extra. Anyway, if T-mobile launches and Nokia complies then you can be damn sure I'll be knocking on the door of my Cingular rep...but until then...I say shame on you Nokia...
 
yeah .. sorry about the off topic. I think Nokia is in a position to wait and see. The U.S. isn't a big part of their market and until the 3G spectrum for both companies is really fleshed out and all over the coverage maps I think they will wait and see before paying creating a quadband phone. They figure if we really want it we will settle with edge on the go and WiFi in the hotspots... and truth be told.. polls like this show we will.

If I had the gobs of extra money I think I might default to the n95 on this one. I hate to say it as I have owned both the 9500 and 9300i and I really like the pinko line, but this, for some reason, doesnt get me that excited. The difference between it and the top N/E series out now just isn't that much to justify the price. It's not like when the 9500 came out and was just clearly THE phone.
 
I just ranted about this in another thread, going way off topic.

Summed up, Cingular wouldn't be cool with Nokia releasing a phone "behind their back" that has UMTS 850/1900 since it is basically Cingular's property. It's going to be up to T-Mobile's partnership with Nokia to bring 3G and s60 together into a reality.
 
We all are feeling this 3G pain on these great phones

May be Cingular pi$$ed Nokia off during N80 release. N80 was initially set to release on NA with Cingular 3G & then they pulled it off for some reason. I am guessing that the culprit is Cingular? That's why Nokia is completely ignoring NA??
 
e90.... impressions?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/13/90_rizrx8_shoot-out/page2.html

i have to agree.. in a sense the e90 is "cool" but i don't think i'd actually use one.. i rather have a e61i
 
Then tell me why Nokia would release a phone that is quadband GSM, no carrier in Europe uses 850/1900 for GSM/GPRS. They include it so that people can take their phone to the US and use it here, on spectrum that is "Cingular's property". I'm sorry, your argument just does not hold up. Its more likely that: 1) Cingular thought the price was too high and could not strike a deal with Nokia to get the subsidized price in the right ballpark; or 2) Nokia realizes that they have not marketed S60 at all here in the US and they would have a tough time competing with WinMo for market share.

I also don't think it has anything to do with price or cost. This phone is going to cost about $1,000, a few extra bucks to include a tri-band 3G radio is nothing. Plus, if Nokia wanted to they could get a better deal than almost any other company for these chips given the volume of phones they produce and sell. The fact is most people would not plunk down $500-$600 for this phone when they could buy a Treo/TyTN for $400, when they don't even know what S60 is. Even if everyone on this forum bought a phone from Cingular at that price they would take a huge hit. Furthermore, the money Nokia would make from those of us willing to spend $1,000 to get a triband 3G phone from Expansys etc., is a pittance.

Some will say it is because Americans are behind the curve compared to Europeans. Well, I blame Nokia. If they wanted to sell these phones here they have the money to market the hell out of S60 to the point where everyone would know about it. They have chosen not to for whatever reason. Thus, they are at a disadvantage when dealing with Cingular who knows they can not charge the same price for these phones that they can for a WinMo phone. T-Mobile is not stupid either, unless they do a deal with Nokia for phones they can sell both here and in Europe they won't carry this phone here. If Nokia wants to be a player in the US smartphone market they have to suck it up and spend some money to advertise and offer their phones at greater subsidies at first, just like Lexus did when they were trying to establish themselves.
 
That makes sense but then again why release phones never slated for a US release with the Cingular owned 850mhz. Hell, even t-mo has to ask permission to roam on their freq.
 
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