No music is allowed because quran forbids idle, pointless talk. Shouldn't all

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poetry be banned too? Music isn't about talk; it's about the sounds themselves. Poetry on the other hand relates purely to words, and words can cause people to think and do haram things. Poetry serves no purpose; if one wants to read great literature they have quran already, plus hadith and tafsir. Any fatwas, current or historical, saying poetry is forbidden and poets aren't worthy contributers to society? I think of poets and musicians in a similar way.

I read that in Iran, they're proud of their poets. Is this a shia thing?
 
Can u classify MUSIC as "talk" and more specifically "Pointless talk" ??

Strange, it never occurred to me. I always thought Music is Entertainment !!

Has it EVER occurred to you that Quranic terminology is different to modern terminologies. And ALL the bull sh-i-t so called scholars are brainless creatures.

God has defined the poets and their poetry in the "LAST" verses of "Surah Shoara" i.e. Surah "the Poets" i.e. 26:224

IT is worth reading the context of these HIGHLY indicative, enlightening and allegorical verses. I would just drop a hint to you in ur email.
 
Good Q.

music is haram & poetry idle so they are forbidden as per my information.
it is too much adored by them ,iranian, iraqis & shias as in form of
MARSIA
&
NOHA
&
MANAJAT
etc etc

iran 's & Persian or Farsi's great poet
Sheikh Saddi Sherazi !

it is promoted by them widely & the consider it religious serving & religious literature while we think holy Quran & hadith & tafsir is main for guidance.

yes poetry & music don't serve humanity that way but does else function.
 
ISLAM IS SOUNDING MORE AND MORE LIKE A PRISON SENTENCE NO MUSIC,NO POETRY,NO ART,NO JOY?
 
Islam has forbidden some musical instruments, for amusement, and permitted others. That is to say, instruments producing Qur’anic sorrow or revelational eagerness are not harmful.
But if it produces the woebegone grief of the orphan or carnal thrills, the instrument is prohibited. It changes from person to person, not everyone is the same.
Poetry is a result of human philosophy.The All-Wise Qur’an contains infinite brilliant, elevated truths, that it is free of the fancies of poetry. Another reason the Qur’an of Miraculous Exposition is not in verse, despite the perfection of its word-order and orderedness and its expounding with its well-ordered styles the order and art of the book of the universe, is that by not entering under the restrictions of metre, each star of its verses can be a sort of centre to the most of the other verses, and be a brother to them, and each can form a connecting line with the verses within the sphere encompassing it in order to be a bond in the relationships which exist between them. It is as if each independent verse has an eye which looks to most of the other verses, and a face turned towards them.
However Our Prophet (PBUH) had permitted poems for good intentions and expressions.Eg:
The famous story of the poet Nabigha. He recited one of his poems before God’s Messenger (Upon whom be blessings and peace), which ran: “Our glory and praise have reached to the skies; we want to ascend even higher.” God’s Messenger asked jokingly: “Where, beyond the skies?” Nabigha replied: “To Paradise.” He then recited another of his meaningful poems, and the Prophet prayed: “May God not spoil your mouth!” It was through the blessing of this prayer of the Prophet that he did not have a single tooth missing when he was one hundred and twenty years old. Whenever he lost a tooth, another would appear in its place.
(‘Ali al-Qari, Sharh al-Shifa’ i, 661; Ibn Hajar, al-Isaba fi Tamyiz al-Sahaba no: 8639; al-‘Asqalani, al-Matalib al-‘Aliya no: 4060; Ibn Kathir, al-Bidaya wa’l Nihaya vi, 168.)
 
"I read that in Iran, they're proud of their poets. Is this a shia thing?"

Since when shia's are Muslims?
they have modified Islam for their Bloody Imams interests.
 
well i disagree its music....but i always thought the keyword in that verse is "purchase". But i also agree....not just poetry, but how about fiction novels.

Most people don't realize when in brackets its says music....so they think they are arguing the quran explicitly states music is haram. ...thats the hadith interjected.

But again we have hadith which the prophet recommends hiring musicians. The only times sins become halal is in a life or death situation....no other circumstance....and he wouldn't recommend any haram.

Not to mention david played the harp....and we believe all prophets were sinless.

Yeah, so i think more information is there to prove music is not haram in itself....but most muslims refuse to think they have been practicing islam incorrectly.
 
Poetry is conditionally allowed,

26:224. And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them:

26:225. Seest thou not that they wander distracted in every valley?-

26:226. And that they say what they practise not?-

26:227. Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!

Music is Haram.
 
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