new rider, ate asphalt, poor bike. 1098s suggestions why?

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jarretsherrard

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I recently bought a new 08 1098s. Where i live Malboro had a promotion and the winner sold it to me. I am new to riding but have cycled competitvky for years.

Yesterday my riding buddy who is experienced and rides a modded 996 and I decided to go for a ride. The course was a very windy road that goes through some mountains. I knew the road well but not this machine.

We were riding pretty hard and I shifted down in a corner from 2nd to first the back kicked out violently. I am pretty banged up but am a bit surprised at the bikes reaction. It was a stock set up. Having raced all sorts of things all my life it was second nature to downshift to get me into the correct gear. Already I found the gearing not suitable for street use. It is why i needed to shift in 1st in the first place.

Apart from being upset about the damage to the bike, mostly front, probably bent handle bar etc. I am baffled about why the bike reacted this way. I expected slight reation to a hard downshift but honestly the down shoft wasn.t that hard. Any ideas on what went swrong besides both riding and mechanical. the road surface was quite smooth, somewhat newly paved sort of.

after the left turn , the back kicked to the right sending me to the ground while 'she' went the other way and skidded on the front. It just felt as though i was bucked off the bike like a mad bull. perhaps i should not have used the gear at that moment but the speed in was just wrong and i was sort of left with no choice. ??
 
Classic. I got the Baddassed Mofo bike ever made for my 1st ride...What happend? Jackass.

How do you know it needs gearing? You dont even know how to ride a motorbike.
 
Sorry to hear that she went down and hope you are doing ok. Is this your first twin by any chance? Seems like you grabbed one gear too many and let the clutch out to quick. This bike has awesome low end torque so you can go into the corner a gear too high and won't have any problem.
 
Sounds like compression lock up of the rear wheel.
A combination of not being familiar with the bike and L twin cylinder characteristics.

My 1198 does the same thing with spirited riding and hard front braking , skipping and locking up the rear wheel, but if you expect it to happen, there are no suprises.

To go back to first gear, the corner must have been a 15km/h corner, I rarely use first gear, obviously only for take offs from the lights, otherwise 2nd gear will pull you out from the torquey twin.
You could always fit a slipper cluch to her, that would of helped you out.
 
I'm confused - so you're new to motorcycle riding but have bicycled competitively? Sorry to hear you went down, but if you're new to riding and you decide to push a 1098 out of the box, you're askin for it...

Get back on it and take your time, dude.

-Nick
 
The honest answer to your question is as follows:

1. You are new to riding, right? So in reality you have no idea what or how a motorcycle of ANY sort, much less a 1000cc plus superbike, is going to react while riding aggressively through twisty stuff.

2. You are also new to this particular bike. Which, even if you are an experienced rider, can lend itself to some fairly dramatic surprises in handling and character while riding aggressively.

3. The sheer nature of a V-twin configuration produces much more torque at much lower revs than an inline four. So by looking at that fact in reverse, you are going to experience a much greater amount of engine braking whil downshifting on these bikes than on any other. However, since you've hardly any riding experience you wouldn't be expecting that.

Solution...Take it easy and put some miles under your belt on a smaller, less volatile bike before you kill yourself. And get some training...NOT the kind that Timmy down the street will provide in your driveway. Sign up for an MSF course. Cycling in no way will prepare you for the dynamic of riding a performance based motorcycle.



Don't take any of that the wrong way. I see plenty of guys do the same thing all the time and your exact situation is a current epidemic among young guys in the military. No training, no experience, big bike, and overzealous/undereducated influences goading them in to hurting themselves.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
My immediate and still present reaction, Stims.

I figured a little mentorship might help since the post seemed genuine and ingnorant rather than reckless and squidish
 
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