New Labour supporters, now even inmates say your Governments prisons are

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like Holiday camps, how do you reply? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7307488.stm
 
my goodness most of the law abiding population of the UK have been told that for years, I see Jack Straw has suggested community sentences =are the answer in appropriate circumstances=, It would be interesting exactly to find out what he means ,The inference being ,that they are more harsh than prison does that mean they would be Free to move around but, deprived the use of television maybe?=pathetic utterances from a government minister=
 
Prisons could hardly be deemed a punishment...they certainly don't act as a deterrent when you see all the recidivists. We need to be much harder and make these criminals pay for their misdemeanours...hard labour....or let's do a deal with Russia and send them to one of their Gulags in Siberia.
 
As another Old Labour supporter, I would support most of what has already been said, and add that Scandinavia, France and Holland have a much more humane - and constructive - prison regime, and none of them imprison the proportion of the population that this country does, nor do they have anything like the same rates of reoffending - so 'broad arrows, porridge and breaking rocks' are not the only way to reduce serial offending.

I'd add the argument that what makes British prisons more horrific than anything is the extent to which they are notorious cesspits of an anarchic subculture imposed by the inmates, not by the staff - this because staffing, security etc are so underfunded and inadequate.

We should look first at what has gone wrong with contemporary Britain to cause so many to commit imprisonable offences - then look at establishing a much more supervised, disciplined but positive and reforming regime for those who continue to be sent to prison - a regime they would probably fear much more than the present shoestring, ramshackle anarchy that is the result of government by misers on behalf of millionaires and mutinationals.
 
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