NASCAR is more about the car than F1 is. How can anyone argue with that?

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Just noticed how everyone on here goes on about how F1 is all about the car. Sorry but in NASCAR it makes an even bigger difference. The driver has very little input in NASCAR.

Mark Martin is 50 and has won 3 races this year because he had the best handling/fastest car on the day.

If you put Alain Prost in the Brawn GP/Red Bull(the two best F1 cars this year) he still would not win and that is a fact. He's not fit enough and he is just way past it for F1. If you put any 50 year old in an F1 car no matter how fast it is he wont win.

Surely that proves that the driver makes very little difference in NASCAR. 50 year olds are not as talented as 20something year olds in any sport other than NASCAR.
They still use leaf springs in NASCAR? WTF?

I actually quite like NASCAR but i think its laughable that fans try to claim their drivers are amazing when its clearly all about how well the car is handling. Its a very uncomplicated style of driving.
 
It is very true to say that in NASCAR the driver does next to nothing, basically opening the throttle and keeping the car straight.

And it is fair to say that F1 takes a lot more driver skill and bravery.

But you must remember that F1 cars are FAR more advanced than NASCAR cars. Nascar still use live axles and leaqf spring suspension, talk about oldschool!!!!

So in F1 there is far more engineering going into the car as opposed to nascar where its just about the engine
 
I'm sorry, but I disagree. In F1, the driver can pretty much keep the throttle wide open all the way around the track, save a few turns where they have to tap the brakes. In NASCAR, the brakes are very important, the handling of the car is very important. Just because the car is fast does not mean the driver can handle the car. Certain drivers can take a bad handling car and win, and other drivers can take a fast car and finish 10th or 15th. Mark Martin can still win in NASCAR because he can still drive a race car. Even when Mark was driving 2nd rate equipment, he still finished solidly. F1 is more about the car than any other motorsport, and the driver just flips switches to change gears. NASCAR still uses an actual shifter, so it is more difficult a NASCAR race car than an F1 car. Just ask any open-wheel driver who's tried, and look where they are now.

Another thing, the NASCAR drivers can feel when something is not right with the car, and they do have a lot of input as to how to fix it. Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, and some others can make a detailed explanation, and could probably put a car together themselves, if they had to, and still be fast. They know what they need to make the car looser, or tighter, and not necessarily just a few turns of wedge, but air pressure in the tires, spring rubbers in any ne of the four corners of the car, so they do have a lot to do with how the car runs.
 
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