My take on the stupidity of the Military....

Well, that's a shitty example. A college professor starts at the bottom, teaching the bottom feaders in his field. Slowly he works his way up to teaching more than just the intro classes. Eventually he gets tenure... then he works his way up to the department chair if he's really good. But he starts out teaching the classes that nobody else wanted to teach... like remedial algebra.

It's ok that you're difficult. I've got a cattle prod and a baseball bat for just such events.
 
good on you uberskippy. i had to give you some points on that one! lol! some people just dont understand how the working world works, and not that that is a bash on him by any means. just some people dont know. i had to do some of the crappy jobs when i was lower ranking too. but now there are people who have not been in as long and are of lower rank that gets tasked with it.
 
It's not that you deserve less respect, it's that jobs need to be done. Obviously, the higher ranks aren't going to do the shitty jobs. Much like a CEO isn't going to mail his own letters, or fix his own computer. Every occupation has a ladder, or chain of command, so to speak.
Well what would you suggest in a situation like the military? I guess everyone could all hold hands and work together, generals and privates a like...
What does that have to do with this conversation? Are you really trying to compare the military's chain of command to racism. Sounds like you're fishing for something to say...
Your comparison is seriously lacking, I'll explain why.

In a corporate environment someone starting at the bottom starts as a mail delivery person, or general "go for", not a janitor. Janitors have their own jobs, and most aren't aspiring to be corporate management, nor are most qualified. That CEO probably started out pretty low on the ladder though, and I doubt he's willing to regress after all the time he's put in.

In the military everyone starts from the absolute bottom. Since there's no distinction between mechanic and infantryman, everyone is a soldier. ALL soldiers have to do things like guard duty or shit details. Even that 4 star general did it once. Obviously the general who has been in 20 something years isn't going to be sweeping the courtyard or mopping the floors, he has more important jobs to tend to. An E1's time is dispensable though.

At least you admit it.
 
Until there is a real war and real need or soldiers to actually defend this country, then we're fucked...


I have no problem with you not being the type to join, most aren't anyway. I just don't' see why you hate something that you're not even a part of, so much.
 
I think its wrong to look at "TEH military" as one entity. I was an army brat for the better half of my life...and we seemed to have it good at some posts and really shitty at others. The inequities of people within "leadership bracket" cant be projected on to the establishment as a whole.

edit: by the way...this was more or less a drive by...I only read the OP, so if someone else said this....tough.
 
Ok, do you really think that because Skitch says on WTF.com that people should stop joining the military that when there's a war everybody will have listened and we'll have no army? Come on. I know you
 
You seem to have missed my point. My point being, if more people thought like you, and had such a baseless hatred for the military, we'd be screwed if we ever had a real war. What are the alternatives? Draft? That'll go over well with everyone...
 
the military is hard no matter which way you look at it. there are shit jobs to do and ya it always seems to be the new guys who get the fun job. why, cause thats how it starts. no if and or buts about it. i think the military has always been like that. shit rolls down hill. i didn't read all skitchypoos sposts due to i didn't agree with the first ones. sure all jobs start the same, but you can hardly compare military to teachers. i have respect for all the boyz over in iraq. my heart goes out too you all and your families. i have a couple friends over there and i hate it when they disappear on me for weeks on end, i always think they are dead. its a terrible feeling. i hope you all get home safely. sorry to hear about all the shit your going through, marine boy has it right though. it may have to do with your rank, soon you'll work your way up and then you'll be the one leaving while another n00b is mad cause you got his leave ;)
 
I really fail to see where you get that from...

I thought I just explained what I meant... I'm not talking about how many people you convince, as I'm sure that number will be negligible. I'm talking about people who hate the military in general. I know the military has it's downfall, everything does, but without it we would be a helpless and meager country.

None of the points you've made were even good points. At least not in my opinion. You're just guessing and posturing on most of it. I see no mention of any real reasons the military is a bad thing, hence baseless.
 
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