My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

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I recently received a M35i from a friend for free as it was considered rubbish, having only a day or so battery life. The phone is one of the first M35i
 
I haven't managed to find the perfect graph, but I hope this one helps. Use the 1/5C curve as an example, but the current draw is actually less than that and will mean the drop off at the end is steeper.

A 3.6v NiMH battery consists of three 1.2v cells. When the battery is at 3.5v, each cell is then at ~1.17v and is probably about 90% discharged. I would expect the drop from 3.5v to 3v (100% discharged) to be quite quick, a matter of hours unfortunatly.

Still, a couple of days is better than the original 12hrs life I guess.

Best regards,
J.
 
hey, this seems to be a quite good article
but I still have one problem: although I tried hard I didn't manage to find a playe where I can download a cracked version of Sensors Tool
can you help me?
 
My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

I think that the formula to avoid misunderstandings should look like this:

{ (SpgY04V
 
Hi BigBen,

I don't recall it ever needing a crack - or not the version that has been linked in previous posts.

Give this a shot:
http://download.siemens-club.ru/files/sensortool13.zip

J. :-P
 
hey, thanks for your help!
but although I finally managed to check my phone with Sensors Tool, I'm not able to fix the battery bug...
the problem is:
the program doesn't how me any VBattDSP value!



so what should I do now? with I can't work any further...

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
 
My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

@mestrini

It would also be more clear if I could use a graphical layout

There should be no problems if you follow BEDMAS, but indeed it would be clearer if I had double-bracketed the division expression:

VBatt = ((SpgDelta/(SpgY04V
 
My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

Hi BigBen,

If you have a peek in the .ini file it only has the memory locations for the VBattDSP value in software versions v18 & v24. I'm also running v25, and although you could downgrade SW to get it to display that field, I just used the method I posted above.

By using the existing values you can calculate what the VBattDSP value is:
VBattDSP = (SpgY04V
 
when you mention Spgdelta in your first post you present two var with same name (like in pic)

Can you please clarify if i'm understanding it wrong?

When following that instructions to calibrate the battery readings i got an spgdelta a bit higher than the original and i'm afraid it might be harmfull. Still, when measuring a full battery (3900 mV) it read 3855 (not bad, i think) but when reading an empty one (3240 mV) the results were bellow 1000 mV
 
hey folks,

during night my phone has shut itself down...
so I switched it on and the status said battery 100% full
I did a call and the phone shut down...
So I measured with my voltmeter and got 3,35V.
Then I wrote 9322 as SpgY03V into the phone as JimmyC posted.
Turning on the phone now brought me an immediate "battery discharged" message and the phone shut down.
So now I'm just charging the battery. When it's charged I'll see if it keeps the phone up for 2,5 days also with the 9322er setting. If not I'll have to find some value between 9322 and 15590.

But I think this will be no big problem...

So thanks u all for your help
 
My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

I have a NiMH battery with 500mAh.
when I charge the battery to full, and measure with my voltmeter, I get 4380 mV. But the phone always says after 12 hours or so: Battery low, must recharge1

So what would you recommend to do?


THANKS FOR HELP


/e: I now calculated the new SpgY03V, using your formule, and I got 15590

can this be right?
or have I done a mistake?


/e2: achja kannst deine antwort auf deutsch schreiben hab grad in deinem icq-profil gesehn da
 
My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

I'll try German but I think your English is better than my German
(Ich kann immer versuchen, aber glaube ich dein English ist besser als mein Deutsch ;-))

If your calibration is already correct then you can try the following
(I have simply used the numbers in your photo for this example):
(Wenn deine Einstellung schon richtig ist, kannst du wie so ausprobieren
(Ich habe einfach die Nummern von deinem Bild benutzt)):

VBattDSP = (SpgY04V
 
@mestrini

Sorry mate, typo
Should be:
SpgDelta = The voltage difference(mV) between SpgY03V & SpgY04V measuring points

NB: This is not the difference between the actual values of SpgY03V & SpgY04V, but the difference between the voltages at which those data points were collected.

Using my phone as an example: The first point is SpgX0 = 4210mV and its VBattDSP value is 2491 (SpgY04V), and the second is 3200mV which is when VBattDSP equals 6653 (SpgY03V).

SpgDelta = 4210 - 3200
SpgDelta = 1010

I've made a little graph to show where the points lie in relation to each other and what happens when SpgY03V is increased.

In this example, if you look at the original calibration line a battery value 3200mV gives VBattDSP = 6653. This number correctly correlates to 3.2v. If you now work back the other way with the new calibration line you can see the the phone is reading 3500mV when VBattDSP = 6653.

Hope this clarifies things more than confusing them
 
Uh uh men... Yesterday I tried a new Sensor Tool profile for my C35i. Usually the battery is charged in an hour or more. Mmm... 3 haours and it continued to charge. So strange... I turn on the cell and... what I found??? TB +439 !!! Arghhh... Temperature Battery 439 ??? It could be explode...
 
Hey guys,

that is unfair.

Replying in German is like giving us a candy and then taking it out from our mouths.

Finally, i found someone talking about an issue that i need to understand and in the end i can't . English is accessible for many, but German isn't.

Please be so kind as to translate the last post.

Thanks

edited bellow:
Thanks for the quick reply m8

And may i add what an excellent job you're doing here

Too bad my calcs don't match yours
 
Sorry Mestrini you're quite right, I'll make an English version as the main thread with German in brackets for BigBen or something (someone will be bound to point out that my English and German don't agree, but I'm just learning German :-)

Regards,
J.
 
My experience using SiemensTool1.3 & M35i

You've got to divide that number by 10

TB +439 = 43.9
 
Ya friend, I know that. But it was the first time that my battery is at TB 400 or above... It's possible? Or dangerous? Do u have some blk profiles for different types of battery of X35 series? Thx a lot.
 
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