Muammar hanging tough (fine looking daughter)

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walt tonne wrote:


You mean the $1 billion spent on another unnecessary war, or the
trillion$ stolen by "White Guys in Suits", or the desperate Mexicans who
are subsidizing with cheap labor, what's left of America's middle class?

I think that horse has gone to the glue factory.


Bush's 3rd term: Obama




If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
They paid for it in blood.



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- Billy
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug
 
On Apr 1, 11:12?am, Billy wrote:

Sometimes in the blood of capitalists. Union busting CEOs should be
terrorized, and perhaps tortured with the video put onto the web.
When union members got money, many of them broke solidarity. When non-
union retailers like Target started, union members should have used
arson, and perhaps even killing to shut them down. Instead they
fucking SHOPPED THERE! The only good Fascist is a dead Fascist. I'm
not going to thank some tradesman who makes five times what I do, then
turns around and votes Republican. Such a person is a traitor to his
class.

--Bryan
 
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Billy :


The 8-hour day and 40-hour week are close to a century old.
Not much progress in reducing them since then, so no thanks
due to unions or anybody else. ObBook: Studs Terkel, _Working_.

-- Catawumpus
 
In article ,
Catawumpus wrote:


Funny you should mention Studs. You must know that he was as ardent an
labor union supporter as you could find. You must be thinking of the
National Association of Manufacturers.

National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) was founded in Cincinnati,
Ohio, in 1895. Most fundamentally, the organization sought to give
business an authoritative voice in the determination of governmental
policy. More particularly, born in the midst of the serious depression
of the mid-1890s, the NAM was dedicated initially to the protection of
the home market via the tariff and to the expansion of foreign trade by
such means as reform of the counselor service, the construction of an
isthmian canal, and a revamping of the U.S. merchant marine. In the wake
of the anthracite coal strike of 1902?1903, the association increasingly
turned its attention to combating the rise of organized labor. During
the 1920s, the NAM became a national leader in the business drive for
the open shop. The Great Depression hit the organization hard, however,
and its membership and revenues dropped precipitously.

The NAM retrenched and reasserted itself in the mid-1930s as the chief
business opponent of New Deal liberal activism. Its shrill nay-saying
failed to stop the torrent of reform legislation, but the organization
gained an enduring reputation for ideological rigor in its denunciation
of government regulation and the emergent welfare state.


In the postwar era the NAM played a significant role in the passage of
the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947, which placed new limits on organized
labor. Thereafter, the association remained one of the nation's most
prominent business lobbies, usually taking a harder, more ideological
line than such accommodationist, big-business groups as the Business
Roundtable. In 1974 the NAM moved its national headquarters from New
York City to Washington, D.C. At the end of the twentieth century the
organization had 14,000 member firms, including 10,000 small and midsize
companies, and 350 member associations.

Bibliography
Collins, Robert M. The Business Response to Keynes, 1929?1964. New York:
Columbia University Press, 1981.
Steigerwalt, Albert K. The National Association of Manufacturers,
1895?1914: A Study in Business Leadership. Ann Arbor: University of
Michigan Press, 1964.
Vogel, David. Fluctuating Fortunes: The Political Power of Business in
America. New York: Basic Books, 1989.

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Manufacturing in Decline; Establishment in Denial
Posted: 02/ 1/11 08:23 AM ET

The National Association of Manufacturers is trying to pull another fast
one.
Consider this presentation in favor of the proposed Korea-U.S. Free
Trade Agreement.

Let's take it apart, shall we?
(cont.)

Bush's 3rd term: Obama




If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
They paid for it in blood.



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- Billy

Dept. of Defense budget: $663.8 billion
Dept. of Health and Human Services budget: $78.4 billion


Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953
 
Catawumpus :


Billy :


Terkel supported labor unions -- not laboring. Here's how
_Working_ starts:

This book, being about work, is, by its very nature,
about violence?to the spirit as well as to the body.
It is about ulcers as well as accidents, about shouting
matches as well as fistfights, about nervous breakdowns
as well as kicking the dog around. It is, above all
(or beneath all), about daily humiliations. To survive
the day is triumph enough for the walking wounded among
the great many of us.

The less of that the better, eh? He allows for "the happy
few who find a savor in their daily job," but strongly
emphasizes that most people aren't half so lucky about how they
get to spend their time.

As the automated pace of our daily jobs wipes out name
and face?and, in many instances, feeling?there is a
sacrilegeous question being asked these days. To earn
one's bread by the sweat of one's brow has always been
the lot of mankind. At least, ever since Eden's
slothful couple was served with an eviction notice. The
scriptural precept was never doubted, not out loud. No
matter how demeaning the task, no matter how it dulls
the senses and breaks the spirit, one must work. Or
else.

Lately there has been a questioning of this "work
ethic," especially by the young. Strangely enough, it
has touched off profound grievances in others, hitherto
devout, silent, and anonymous. Unexpected precincts are
being heard from in a show of discontent. Communique's
from the assembly line are frequent and alarming:
absenteeism. On the evening bus, the tense, pinched
faces of young file clerks and elderly secretaries tell
us more than we care to know. On the expressways,
middle management men pose without grace behind their
wheels as they flee city and job.

Studs Terkel, _Working_ xiii-xiv

-- Catawumpus
 
On Apr 18, 12:49?pm, Billy wrote:

I'm disappointed too, but Obama, Clinton and Carter have all had to
deal with the electorate, which is nowhere near as progressive as you
or I. To publicly brand Democratic presidents as Republican Lite
doesn't serve the interests of working class folks.

Gen. Patton said that it wasn't the soldier's job to die for his
country, but to make his opponent die for *his* country. Perhaps the
solution is to make the oligarch die for his wealth. Maybe the best
defense is a good offense.

If only the modern day Republicans longed for the days of the
Eisenhower presidency instead of taking a shit upon those words...

--Bryan
 
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