Marines - My turn to bitch

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So, for a while now, I've felt like ranting about how much I hate my job and I feel like posting it here. I don't actually care if anyone reads it, but I'm going to anyways.

As many of you know, I'm in the USMC and have been for the past 4 years. I now have less than a year left on my contract and have never been more ready to get the fuck out of this organization. I have put up with the bullshit of so many uneducated morons in the past four years of my life that I don't know if I'll be able to handle the real life after this. Day in and day out people without the slightest semblance of common sense are the ones in charge making all the decisions on what happens. My current unit is deployed to Afcrackistan and I'm stuck back here in the rear(which I don't terribly mind, as it gives me time to do my college) and our senior members in the unit think it's a wonderful fucking idea to send us to the field. The ones of us left in the rear right now are the ones that weren't fit to deploy due to mental problems, physical limitations(such as for me my back is fucked up), or soon to be getting out. Going to the field is to put people that you either don't want handling weapons or any of the expensive, and overpriced, equipment in their hands and forcing the incapable to carry heavy equipment on hikes and in other situations. Not to mention that we're not deploying for a reason and we're not GOING to be deploying. To have us go out to the field to train for an operation that we're not capable of partaking in is just plain stupid and a waste of our time. I'm not going because my back is just that fucked up(probably to the point that I'll be getting out shortly after they figure out what's wrong with it), but I still pity the ones that had to go out there and waste their time and possibly have a heat stroke. It reaches up to 120 out here and while it reaches similar heats in country it's not even close to being the same. You're taking people that sit in doors all day working desk jobs out into the extreme heat and expecting them to be able to cope with it and be alright. I will be surprised if we don't have any heat casualties while they're out there. I could go on about this, but I'm sure a majority of you see the stupidity in this.

Then there are the religious nutjobs in my unit which just piss me off to no end. Another thing I'm sure many of you realize is that I pretty much despise religion. Without religion I personally feel that the world would be a much better place. I have one person in particular who gives those that hold religious beliefs with special treatment. We had one Marine that was about to get bad marks in his pros and cons(which is pretty much a review of how you do at work and affects promotions). When this person found out that the Marine was religious he instantly changed his mind and let the situation slide. I happen to be an atheist and he knows it. I get treated like shit by this guy because I don't believe in his invisible sky wizard. It seems that this happens everywhere and not just in the Marine Corps. It puzzles me that people can come out about being religious in a public setting, but to tell someone you're an atheist seems to mean that you're an immoral person and a heathen who should be shot on the spot if it were legal. If I believe in Santa I'm crazy, but if I don't believe in God I'm an immoral bastard.

Then there's all the bullshit that this organization puts in such high standards. We have these things called general orders which are supposed to be orders you follow at all times, but in particular when you're standing duty. I think they're all bullshit and there is no reason that you should have to memorize such worthless information. It's not so much that they're bullshit, but they're just common sense. For some reason if I don't have them memorized I'm a dirt bag and should be treated poorly because I don't need to memorize a bunch of words verbatim in order to perform things that are as logical as breathing. For example one of them is "walk my post in a military manner keeping always on the alert and observing everything that takes place within sight and hearing." Well no fucking shit. Your job on duty is to watch your post and make sure nothing bad happens. To have to have this "order" memorized is useless knowledge that won't help me at any point in my life. This is not the only kind of worthless junk we're supposed to know. There's all kinds of stupid shit...

Then there's the fact that we have marines that are just worthless and can't even perform their jobs properly. They don't know what they're doing and they don't have the capabilities to learn how to do it. I thought you could always teach someone how to do something, but these people constantly prove me wrong. People that can't perform their day to day jobs should be fired. But no, we can't fire people in the Marine Corps because it's a government job and they have a contract. These sorts of things are what makes the Corps run so poorly. If we were able to fire the worthless ones that impede daily progress then we would be much more efficient and we wouldn't have the retards we have in charge of us. The only people that stay in are the ones that have no hopes for the rest of their lives, and the only reason they get promoted is because they can do less damage at higher ranks because they're not actually doing the work. Most of the time a Lance Corporal(E-3) will be able to do his job better than a Gunnery Sergeant(E-7).
I'm going to stop here for now.

TL;DR: I regret my decision in joining this organization and question why I did it daily. :(
 
I hope the year goes by quickly for you. And I hope you don't end up with some shit minimum wage job once you get out.

And, in spite of all the bullshit you experience, I hope you don't end up like me: wishing you'd have sucked it up, stayed in and retired in the military. Because it really is the only secure job in the U.S. currently.
 
Going to the field is a reason for all the other SNO's in the rear to go home and not have to deal with all the "broke dicks". Its also an evaluation of malingerers. Those that are legit will refuse no matter what... and those that aren't will do whatever it takes to get the senior leadership to shut the hell up. There are also logistical jobs that they can do for larger field operations. They can do things like ammo accountability... gear watch etc etc.

Before you know it man... you'll be out and much as you hate it... it will always be a big part of your life. I guess I can't say you'll be like I am... but there are some things I miss about it. I dont regret my decision to get out, however I do wish it would have gone better. Its like you say... the gross incompetence of the leadership that makes the organization as a whole suck balls.

Other things I wish I would have thought about while I was in... was that Marines are supposed to be angry killers... so it would make sense to keep you pissed off as much as possible while you're in. That way when you get the chance to let it all out... you're damn good at it.
 
I hear ya Awaken. Good luck man. I had some rough treatment at the hands of the "Enlightened" among the Army, because I told everyone I was Agnostic. Agnostic. Not even Atheist, which is closer. So yeah, it is amazing. I hope you get out not any worse for wear.
 
I have high hopes of being able to have a steady job. I'll be in college for at least 3 years getting my degree, so hopefully by then the economy will straighten itself back out like it always does. If worse comes to worse and I absolutely can NOT get a job then I will re-enlist and go officer side and try to solve all the bullshit that I can.



We're supposed to be angry killers? That's news to me. We can't even let loose in country without following a bunch of stupid rules that no one else follows. The only difference I've noticed is that we're a lot more locked on then other branches and not nearly as lazy as them. I see Army guys walking around in country with their rifles broken down and put into their packs... Fucking genius.
As far as evaluating the malingering ones that is pretty much impossible. You can hardly prove that someone is malingering due to the nature of the charge. I've actually never heard of anyone getting charged with that offense. I know plenty of people that should have been, though.



Crit for over 9000?



Luckily the only thing that is happening to me because of my time in is that I'm just constantly pissed off at everyone. I hope that when I get out I'll be able to treat other people like human beings as opposed to what you learn while you're in... I do know that I still have a bit of common sense and logic left, because if I didn't I wouldn't have a problem with the day to day situations I'm put in. I refuse to give in to their stupid shit and become brainwashed like a majority of the people I know.
 
Well Awaken, their job is to brainwash people. I'm glad you've survived the process. I did too. That's when I knew the Army wasn't for me. That, and when I saw those around me thinking a completely insane and stupid order, was normal. I shivered a bit in memory.

Screaming into a mike at a Bradley on the live fire range for the Abrams. I screamed, even lost military composure and called the Lieutenant a "fucking moron" over the air. The bastard ordered his crew to keep going. I watched a sabot round go through that Bradley killing all of them. I've seen this several times during training, Fucking training. In war? I can't trust those people in Peace.
 
I'm reading it and thinking - save for the 120 degree heat that sounds a lot like my last job.

The CFO was super religious and didn't care for anyone who didn't go to his church. He had the IT guy in his pocket and I knew they were reading my emails so I sent one to a friend that said something like:

Dear Sisters of the Moon Circle,

This weekend's annual coven meeting was amazing. We thank the spirits for the animals that surrendered their lives so that we could progress and for their sacrifice we will never forget.

Also, who ever brought the Amish macaroni salad - it was divine.

xoxo
Starlight Gaze

My point is what you're dealing with now is a good simulation of offices in America.

Buy hey at least your version of the GI bill is sweet, right?
 
It's a violation of the UCMJ to talk shit about the military while in the military....

lol, j/k


I had similar distasteful thoughts about my military career in my last year of service. Actually I've described the military before as the Greatest Worst Decision I ever made. I say that because I got to see cool stuff like europe, open ocean(which sounds boring but can be kinda cool), ride some roller coaster kinda storms out. and see big guns go bang, as well as rekindled my working career which was in the shitter before I joined.

And I also got tore ass drunk in many forign nations :D

But if I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't of stepped foot in that recruiters office knowing what I know now about how much bullshit it is as well...
 
Maybe you would have gone to college the second time around and learned proper English and shit. :)

I could give a flying fuck less if I'm not supposed to talk shit about the military. I do it on a daily basis at work and everyone, including the highest people in the unit's chain of command, know I do it. I just don't care anymore. :|
 
same here when I was in... Navy creed was really "A Bitching sailor is a happy sailor".

and btw to correct you its "I could not give less of a flying fuck if I'm not supposed to talk shit about the Military.(jumbled up a bit there) I do it on a daily basis at work. Everyone, Including the highest people in the Unit's Chain Of Command know I do it.(run on sentence)"

thank you, and have a nice day :D
 
to say he could give a flying fuck less, seems incorrect to me to his point.. If he could give less, then he actually has some care for it...

seems it should be could not give less of a flying fuck...
 
That doesn't remove grammatical correctness from the sentences. Those sentences are structured grammatically, even if the meaning is somewhat off of what we're assuming he intended. Besides "give a flying fuck less" is/has become an idiom for not caring, despite the idiosyncratic breakdown between what the "words say," and what "they mean."

In any case, a linguist would defend the use of the idiom, as it is culturally relevant and understood, which is all that's required for "correctness" of expression.
 
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