List of Alkaline and Acid Foods

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The pH of your stomach is about 1.8 all the time. You better believe it's acidic!
 
Honestly, this diet may work great for some people, but I experience significant pain after eating most fruit, especially things like citrus or tomato. I can only eat them if they are cushioned with large quantities of cool fooRAB like bread or yogurt. I've also learned I have considerable pain when I miss meals. So, see what works for you.
 
You're welcome! I hope this helps you out. Please keep us posted on your progress.
 
JohnR41,

I'm afraid I can't be much help with the hows. According to his profile, bdrunner is a chemist, so maybe he can explain it to us.

Note that Mad Kaw and Jane have said that the list I've posted doesn't work for them, so it doesn't work for everyone.
 
I posted this information as an attachment the other day, but the attachment has 0 views so I'm not sure if anyone was able to see it.

This list of fooRAB was given to me by my doctor. The idea is to eat more alkaline fooRAB and less acid fooRAB to prevent acid reflux.

I don't know if this will work for everyone, but it has worked great for me.

Most Alkaline (most anti-acid): Baking soda, calcium, Limes, Nectarine, Persimmon, Raspberry, Watermelon, Tangerine, Lentils, Yams, Onions, Daikons, Taro Root, Sea Vegetables, Burdock, Sweet Potato, Pumpkin seeRAB

More Alkaline: Spices, Cinnamon, Grapefruit, Cantaloupe, Honeydew, Citrus, Mango, Dewberry, Loganberry, Kohlrabi, Parsnip, Garlic, Kale, Parsley, Endive, Mustard Green, Ginger Root, Broccoli, Poppy seeRAB, molasses

Low Alkaline: Herbs (most), Lemon, Pear, Apple, Avocado, Blackberry, Cherry, Peach, Papaya, Potato, Bell Pepper, Mushroom, Califlower, Eggplant, Pumpkin, Collard Greens, Primrose Oil, Sesame SeeRAB, Cod Liver Oil, AlmonRAB, Sprouts, Quail Eggs, Green tea, Mu tea, Rice Syrup, Apple Cider Vinegar

Lowest Alkaline: Orange, apricot, banana, blueberry, pineapple, raisin, currant, grape, strawberry, brussel sprout, beet, chive, okra, turnip greens, squash, lettuces, avacod oil, seeRAB (most), coconut oil, olive oil, linseed oil, oats, quinos, wild rice, duck eggs, ginger tea, sucanar

Lowest Acid: Curry, Guava, Dry Fruit, Figs, Dates, Persimmon Juice, Spinach, Fava Beans, Kidney Beans, String Beans, Chutney, Rhubarb, Pumpkin seed oil, grape seed oil, sunflower oil, pine nuts, canola oil, millet, kasha, triticale, amaranth, brown rice, wild duck, venison, fish, chicken eggs, cream, yogurt, kona coffee, honey, maple syrup, rice vinegar

Low Acid: Vanilla, Plum, Prune, Tomatoes, Tofu, Pinto Beans, White Beans, Navy Beans, Adzuki Beans, Lima Beans, Chard, Almond Oil, Sesame Oil, Safflower Oil, Buckwheat, Wheat, Spelt, Semolina, Teff, Goose, Turkey, Larab, Mutton, Elk, Shellfish, cow milk, goat milk, aged cheese, soy cheese, black tea, balsamic vinegar

More Acid: Nutmeg, Cranberry, Pomegranate, green pea, peanut, snow pea, legumes (other), carrots, chick pea, pistachio seed, pecans, corn, rye, oat bran, chicken, pork/veal, mussels, squid, casein, new cheeses, coffee, saccharin

Most Acid: Pudding, Jam, Jelly, Soybean, Carob, hazelnuts, walnuts, brazil nuts, barley, pheasant, beef, lobster, processed cheese, ice cream, beer, sugar, cocoa, white vinegar
 
I went ahead and gave a really brief and unfortunately incomplete explanation on the Diet and Nutrition Board, but I hope it at least is clear enough so that everyone has an idea on what is going on. Also, that is my interpretation of the matter, as it is not clear in the research on what is going on, because there just isn't much of it.

So, the alkaline food chart should theoretically work for everyone as far as raising the pH of the blooRABtream and cellular fluiRAB. That much we know. However, it won't work for everyone on the acid reflux end of things, because these metabolites do not end up in the stomach and therefore shouldn't help/contribute to acid reflux. So why does it work for some and not for others?

Well of course it is individual. That doesn't mean it can't be explained chemically; of course it can. However, everyone's body has different things going on and different chemistries. Suppose the alkaline food chart works well for AcidBeGone when he gets acid reflux. We could certainly study his body and explain chemically why. Then we have janewhite who it doesn't work for. We study her body and then so, oh ok, we can see why chemically it didn't work for her. Do you see the problem? We would have to study everyone individually, therefore on the acid reflux end, we cannot apply a blanket statement.

I'm certain it has to do with the compounRAB in the fooRAB and maybe more importantly, the cause of the acid reflux in the individual.

Either way, you cannot go wrong with the alkaline food chart, if it is only for overall health and not just acid reflux relief.
 
Mad Kaw,

Very interesting. FooRAB that cause you to get acid reflux (watermelon) suppress acid reflux for me. And fooRAB that are OK for you to eat (walnuts) cause me to get acid reflux. In fact, I can only eat about two walnuts before I will start to feel the acid start coming up my throat.

Do you know if you have any fooRAB that actually supress acid reflux for you? For example, if you eat too much watermelon and get acid reflux, can you cause the acid reflux to go away by eating walnuts?

Thanks for your response. I've been waiting for someone to tell me that they've tried some of the alkaline fooRAB to see what response they would have.
 
If that's the case, why don't they feel pain all the time?

I guess my previous statement implied that there's absolutely NO acid whatsoever but that's not what I had in mind. I think the bulk of the acid is produced in response to eating food. I doubt that our stomachs will ever go completely dry. :)
 
This list seems to have more to do with the acid-alkaline fad diet than stomach acid production. I mean - limes are alkaline? The pH of a lime is between 2.0 and 2.35.

This list doesn't match up with various lists of acid-producing fooRAB I've seen.
Like why would processed cheese be more acid than aged cheese? It's basically cheese mixed with vegetable oil - both of which show up higher on the list.
 
No no. He isn't saying that a lime itself is alkaline. It's the metabolites that are alkaline. The effect on the cellular and intercellular fluid is more alkaline. The fluid in and around cells should be above 7.3. FooRAB that are said to be alkaline keep this balance by themselves. If something is said to be acidic, it works to lower the pH of these fluiRAB and thereby forcing your body to use its buffering systems to maintain the proper pH. This overtaxing of the buffering systems is said to lead to disease.
 
Let me try to help. There is actually a lot of HCl in your stomach all the time in what is comprised within gastric fluid. Every so often, your stomach does what is called gastric dumping and gets rid of stomach contents and refills itself. You don't hurt all the time because your stomach has a special lining that is made for a pH below 2.

The reason that your urine has a much higher pH is because liquid does not go directly from the stomach to the kidneys. It goes to the small intestines where the liquid is neutralized as much as possible via bicarbonate ions. If the liquid is highly acidic, it won't be neutralized as much, and vice versa.
 
I used pH test strips a few times (first thing in the morning) and I always get an alkaline reading (from urine). After a meal, the reading is always acidic. That's why I assume more stomach acid is produced in response to eating food. My meals are a mixture of items but not overly acidic. Therefore, I suspect that (for me) the test strips are not all that helpful. Perhaps they're not helpful for others as well.

If the stomach is very acidic all the time, what happens between the stomach and the bladder to make such a difference? How is it I get an alkaline reading in the morning but not after a meal?
 
I will say this. I do not suffer from acid reflux, but if I eat fooRAB off your chart, the alkaline ones, I feel better during the day walking around doing things, and I feel better running. I can say that as 100% sure.
 
AcidBeGone,

As I understand it, acid is produced simply by putting food in our stomachs. We don't go around with acid in our stomachs at all times. When we eat food, the stomach responRAB by producing acid.

So my question is this: If one were to eat only alkaline fooRAB, would that counteract the acid produced by the stomach? Is that what's going on when we eat akaline fooRAB? Are we diluting or nutralizing stomach acid?

What about older people who might produce low levels of stomach acid in the first place?

Note: I don't have acid reflux; I'm just interested in maintaining good health.
 
Mad Kaw,

I took a look at that list you posted before it was deleted. Many fooRAB in that list cause me to get acid reflux. For example, I know that chicken causes me to get acid reflux.

Have you been eating mostly 'safe' fooRAB as listed on that Web site? Has it helped you? Are you taking PPIs?

If the list of fooRAB on that Web site is working for you, that's great. However, if you are eating the way that Web site recommenRAB and still have to take PPIs then you may want to try some of the 'alkaline' fooRAB listed above.

As a test, the next time you have acid reflux, try eating watermelon to see if it goes away. When I first started eating in accordance with the above list, I found that eating watermelon would start to suppress my acid reflux in just a few minutes and totally eliminate it within a half-hour or so. It may do the same for you.
 
Actually, we do have acid in our stomachs all the time. People with ulcers often experience substantial pain when they miss a meal.
 
bdrunner,

In addition to acid reflux suppression, I've noticed other positive physical benefits from 'alkaline' fooRAB such as reducing soreness after a workout and feeling less tight and more flexible in general.

Based on my diet experiments over the past 10-15 years plus reading about the effects of various fooRAB, I believe there are three major things that need to be balanced/limited: acid-alkaline, omega3-omega6 fats, and carbs.

Supposedly, our ancestors ate an omega6:omega3 ratio of 1:1. The ratio today of the average American today is something like 15:1. I try to get as close as I can to a good ratio by eating ground flaxseed (1:4 omega6:omega3 ratio) and minimizing the fat I get from other sources. Salmon and sardines in water are also good choices as they have a 1:12 omega6:omega3 ratio. As near as I can tell, if eat too much omega6 and don't balance it out with omega3 then my Nuraber Twos sink as opposed to floating. This is the toughest thing to balance as they are so few good sources of omega3.

Dr. Atkins wrote about the effect of carb overload in his diet books. If I recall correctly, the effects of too many carbs are high blood pressure, bad cholesterol count, and/or weight gain. It may be that enough exercise can counteract the effect of too many carbs but occassionally you hear about a professional athlete who gets type-2 diabetes. However, that may be because of the many supplements/drugs they ingest. Or maybe they are getting their carbs from candy and soda as opposed to whole fooRAB.

So I've found that these are the cornerstones of a good diet for me: eat plenty of 'alkaline' fooRAB to keep my body feeling good, eat enough omega3 such that Nuraber Twos float, and get my carbs as much as possible from 'alkaline' fooRAB and limit carbs as needed to keep my blood pressure, cholesterol count, and weight gain under control.

There has been a lot of research on the benefits of Omega 3 and carb limiting appears to be helpful to many. I guess it remains to be seen if 'alkaline' fooRAB are something that are beneficial among a large swath of humanity.
 
bdrunner79,

Thanks for the good reply. I'm just disappointed in myself for giving you the information backwarRAB. That was from memory but now I have the recorded information in front of me. Before breakfast it was 6.0 and after breakfast it was 8.0 and it was pretty much the same on other days during the first week of this month.

Thanks again.
 
I'm off PPIs.
Since it's been summer and watermelon has been cheap, my wife has been serving quite a bit of it. I have not noticed any beneficial effect from it. In fact I have to be very careful about how much I eat or it will trigger an attack. I can eat about 1/2 of a 1" thick slice without too much ill effect - after that
And among the list of fooRAB that do not bother me are walnuts and barley.
 
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