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twatllama
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Every time I hear that an innocent prisoner died in a detention camp I see nothing but outrage from the liberal media. Being myself a liberal I can't understand why people think wars should be posh.
It's a war and many innocents will inevitably die. I remember US history during the revolutionary war, England's armies would stand on a battlefield in perfect formation, shooting in unison, having soldiers whose only duty was to carry a flag or play a drum, this was considered "proper" warfare while the colonial guerilla tactics were considered barbaric and dishonorly.
I remember reading a story in the NY Times that KFC is under heavy criticism for their methods for executing chickens and how the chickens are stored while alive. I remember telling my father about the story, the conversation went something like this:
Me: Dad, KFC is being criticized because they are killing their chickens in an improper way.
Dad: Well what's the proper way to KILL them?
It's the same way I feel about these Iraqi prisoners being tortured. Do I feel bad that an innocent man might have to be stripped naked and forced to cuddle with his other religious nutjobs, sure I do. But it's a war and I'm sick of politicians having to apologize for their interrogation methods. Americans WANTED this war after 9/11, your reap what you sow. Don't turn around now and criticize that we are killing people inhumanely or we are interrogating them improperly based on a Geneva Convention guideline in article 3.
The only good argument I have ever heard against torture was that studies show that information obtained from torture is usually false because the tortured person will say anything the interrogator wants to hear in order to ease his misery. Granted this is a good argument, and I would like to hear more along the lines of practicality. However, I never want to hear another liberal say that torture is wrong because it's inhumane, war is a part of our nature as a species and conducting it 'properly' is just ridiculous. You're killing people, there is nothing proper about that, there is no layer of icing on this rotten cake, nothing to make it seem better aside from avoiding the war completely.
They didn't throw chickens at a wall en masse in order to kill them. That was just select workers having some twisted fun with 20 or so chickens. The process for killing them is slitting their throats on a huge line machine.
In order to create more enemies from torture, it has to be publicized. Why am I hearing more and more about CIA operations which are supposed to be classified from the public?
I also saw in a documentary that innocents were sent to detention camps for false crimes by Iraqi/Pakistani officials for money. Why isn't the new hate distributed towards them?
It's a war and many innocents will inevitably die. I remember US history during the revolutionary war, England's armies would stand on a battlefield in perfect formation, shooting in unison, having soldiers whose only duty was to carry a flag or play a drum, this was considered "proper" warfare while the colonial guerilla tactics were considered barbaric and dishonorly.
I remember reading a story in the NY Times that KFC is under heavy criticism for their methods for executing chickens and how the chickens are stored while alive. I remember telling my father about the story, the conversation went something like this:
Me: Dad, KFC is being criticized because they are killing their chickens in an improper way.
Dad: Well what's the proper way to KILL them?
It's the same way I feel about these Iraqi prisoners being tortured. Do I feel bad that an innocent man might have to be stripped naked and forced to cuddle with his other religious nutjobs, sure I do. But it's a war and I'm sick of politicians having to apologize for their interrogation methods. Americans WANTED this war after 9/11, your reap what you sow. Don't turn around now and criticize that we are killing people inhumanely or we are interrogating them improperly based on a Geneva Convention guideline in article 3.
The only good argument I have ever heard against torture was that studies show that information obtained from torture is usually false because the tortured person will say anything the interrogator wants to hear in order to ease his misery. Granted this is a good argument, and I would like to hear more along the lines of practicality. However, I never want to hear another liberal say that torture is wrong because it's inhumane, war is a part of our nature as a species and conducting it 'properly' is just ridiculous. You're killing people, there is nothing proper about that, there is no layer of icing on this rotten cake, nothing to make it seem better aside from avoiding the war completely.
They didn't throw chickens at a wall en masse in order to kill them. That was just select workers having some twisted fun with 20 or so chickens. The process for killing them is slitting their throats on a huge line machine.
In order to create more enemies from torture, it has to be publicized. Why am I hearing more and more about CIA operations which are supposed to be classified from the public?
I also saw in a documentary that innocents were sent to detention camps for false crimes by Iraqi/Pakistani officials for money. Why isn't the new hate distributed towards them?