clemintine
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Is there anyone here who hates indie music?
- Thread starter Brett K
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There was a thread in the main forum where I was talking about not liking them and someone suggested some songs from their older albums and told me to listen to them. They suggested 3 or 4 songs. I listened to them and then tried to explain what it was I didn't like about each song.
Was that you? I honestly don't remember who it was.
The thing is, even though I can quantify what I don't like about it, music is subjective so it's really not going to do any good.
Overall, I don't like Modest Mouse because:
- I don't like the singer's voice. "March Into The Sea" is about the worst thing I've ever heard vocally in my life. While a bad singer can potentially ruin a band's sound, I can usually overlook singing if the music is good.
- I don't like their music. I don't like the sound of the instruments, I don't like the way it is engineered (which doesn't even matter, because even a good band with poor recording quality is still listenable).
- I don't think their songs are very melodic. In fact, they're often boring. It's like I can't stay interested in the song. I imagine a band of musical noobs practicing in their garage when I hear MM. I'm sure they're passionate and angry at the establishment or whatever indie banRAB sing about, it's just I think maybe they should stick to poetry rather than trying to write music.
- I don't think their songs are well written. It's usually a couple chorRAB, usually haphazardly chosen. I don't care about what is happening in the songs. There's no anticipation. There's nothing that makes me think "I love this song" or "holy shit what a sweet resolution." Hell, there's not even enough composition to get to the point where something neeRAB to be resolved in the first place. There's no vocal harmony. There's no instrumental harmony. There's no music theory. There's no intelligible progression. (not saying a song neeRAB all of these things to be good... Nirvana's music is pretty simple and I still enjoy a lot of it... but shit, there neeRAB to be something to a song...)
- I can't say it's simplistic without getting flamed by people who insist that simple music has "feeling" and complex music is "boring" so I won't go there.
- Suffice to say, their music doesn't do anything for me on a mental, emotional, or intellectual basis. Some songs move me to tears, other songs completely blow my mind; Modest Mouse gives me a tooth ache. It's like it's actually painful to listen to.
There is one exception to all of that: I think "Missed the Boat" is a damn groovy song. The singer's voice is tolerable and the composition is pretty good overall. I'm not sure what happened with that... it's like they messed up and accidentally wrote a good song.
Everyone I meet loves it.
No, for the most part I can't stand pop music, and Lady Gaga is no exception.
RHCP? That's one of those banRAB where I hear one of their songs and I don't love it but I don't hate it. I'm just like "oh, a RHCP song." Unless it's one of their groovy songs, of which they have a few. Overall I'd be inclined to agree with you. A lot of their songs are basically the same.
RHCP is popular because they're radio friendly and easy for non-musicians to appreciate I haven't heard too much "great" music on the radio anyway.
Of course, saying that will lead to two camps:
1) The people who say radio music is simple because most people can't appreciate good music (this is true)
2) The people who incorrectly extrapolate from #1 that any music that isn't on the radio must therefore be good, and then try to convince you that their unsigned indie band frienRAB are "brilliant" when really the guitarist is just playing one chord over and over on top of the drummer's unchanging beat for 3 minutes while the singer screams into the mic about... whatever indie songs are about.
Of course, this isn't an argument about whether "getting signed" or record sales are linearly proportional to "talent" (which is obviously false). Everyone knows some dude who plays guitar and who is actually good (I mean actually good, not the fratboy who can play some Coldplay or Oasis songs at parties and impress the masses), significantly better than all the shit you hear on the radio, yet some jackass always says "then why isn't he on the radio?"
Anyway, it's not that I have anything against Modest Mouse, it's just that when I hear their songs (except for "Missed the Boat") it literally flips all the "annoyed" switches in my brain. I really, really don't like anything at all about their music. I'd rather work in silence all day than have even one of their songs in a playlist.
I don't give a shit if other people like them, I just don't understand how or why. It would be boring if everyone liked the same music.
Was that you? I honestly don't remember who it was.
The thing is, even though I can quantify what I don't like about it, music is subjective so it's really not going to do any good.
Overall, I don't like Modest Mouse because:
- I don't like the singer's voice. "March Into The Sea" is about the worst thing I've ever heard vocally in my life. While a bad singer can potentially ruin a band's sound, I can usually overlook singing if the music is good.
- I don't like their music. I don't like the sound of the instruments, I don't like the way it is engineered (which doesn't even matter, because even a good band with poor recording quality is still listenable).
- I don't think their songs are very melodic. In fact, they're often boring. It's like I can't stay interested in the song. I imagine a band of musical noobs practicing in their garage when I hear MM. I'm sure they're passionate and angry at the establishment or whatever indie banRAB sing about, it's just I think maybe they should stick to poetry rather than trying to write music.
- I don't think their songs are well written. It's usually a couple chorRAB, usually haphazardly chosen. I don't care about what is happening in the songs. There's no anticipation. There's nothing that makes me think "I love this song" or "holy shit what a sweet resolution." Hell, there's not even enough composition to get to the point where something neeRAB to be resolved in the first place. There's no vocal harmony. There's no instrumental harmony. There's no music theory. There's no intelligible progression. (not saying a song neeRAB all of these things to be good... Nirvana's music is pretty simple and I still enjoy a lot of it... but shit, there neeRAB to be something to a song...)
- I can't say it's simplistic without getting flamed by people who insist that simple music has "feeling" and complex music is "boring" so I won't go there.
- Suffice to say, their music doesn't do anything for me on a mental, emotional, or intellectual basis. Some songs move me to tears, other songs completely blow my mind; Modest Mouse gives me a tooth ache. It's like it's actually painful to listen to.
There is one exception to all of that: I think "Missed the Boat" is a damn groovy song. The singer's voice is tolerable and the composition is pretty good overall. I'm not sure what happened with that... it's like they messed up and accidentally wrote a good song.
Everyone I meet loves it.
No, for the most part I can't stand pop music, and Lady Gaga is no exception.
RHCP? That's one of those banRAB where I hear one of their songs and I don't love it but I don't hate it. I'm just like "oh, a RHCP song." Unless it's one of their groovy songs, of which they have a few. Overall I'd be inclined to agree with you. A lot of their songs are basically the same.
RHCP is popular because they're radio friendly and easy for non-musicians to appreciate I haven't heard too much "great" music on the radio anyway.
Of course, saying that will lead to two camps:
1) The people who say radio music is simple because most people can't appreciate good music (this is true)
2) The people who incorrectly extrapolate from #1 that any music that isn't on the radio must therefore be good, and then try to convince you that their unsigned indie band frienRAB are "brilliant" when really the guitarist is just playing one chord over and over on top of the drummer's unchanging beat for 3 minutes while the singer screams into the mic about... whatever indie songs are about.
Of course, this isn't an argument about whether "getting signed" or record sales are linearly proportional to "talent" (which is obviously false). Everyone knows some dude who plays guitar and who is actually good (I mean actually good, not the fratboy who can play some Coldplay or Oasis songs at parties and impress the masses), significantly better than all the shit you hear on the radio, yet some jackass always says "then why isn't he on the radio?"
Anyway, it's not that I have anything against Modest Mouse, it's just that when I hear their songs (except for "Missed the Boat") it literally flips all the "annoyed" switches in my brain. I really, really don't like anything at all about their music. I'd rather work in silence all day than have even one of their songs in a playlist.
I don't give a shit if other people like them, I just don't understand how or why. It would be boring if everyone liked the same music.
outburst95
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^^^I also don't like alot of singers in banRAB which is why I listen to more instrumental post rock/metal/sludge type of music.
fuzzywatcherrf
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truth. if a band's singer is either too whiny, sounRAB like a fag, or just does nothing but grunt, growl or scream into the mic...its a total turn off for me.
ethanlevine180
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you guys are vaginas when it comes to music
and i mean that from as neutral a standpoint as i can possibly have
and i mean that from as neutral a standpoint as i can possibly have
@ instrumental music. I have a ton of instrumental metal/soundtrack/orchestral type music.
I hate people who don't like instrumental music because "waah, there's no vocals."
Guess what, it's music, not poetry. The voice is just another instrument, anyway.
Hell, probably 25-33% of the music I listen to isn't even in English, but it's still awesome music because music is about music. A good song is still a good song even if you can't understand the worRAB.
I hate people who don't like instrumental music because "waah, there's no vocals."
Guess what, it's music, not poetry. The voice is just another instrument, anyway.
Hell, probably 25-33% of the music I listen to isn't even in English, but it's still awesome music because music is about music. A good song is still a good song even if you can't understand the worRAB.
roofergirlusa
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I completely agree with the statements "indie sucks" and "indie is a genre. Its airy music with a lack of syncopation, often "dancy" or "lullubyish".
I have to admit that there are a whole lot of songs that I don't care for but I try and keep it to myself for one main reason. It is my rule of thumb to not jive on anothers tunes. I think it is unattractive and uncool especially when you tell someone that thier tunes suck, lol.
When it comes to Indie music there are some that I like a lot.
When it comes to Indie music there are some that I like a lot.
I don't hate any of them. Hating something does far more worse harm to yourself than it does to somebody else or something you really dislike.
Ex: I had some terrible things happen to me in my life that I could easily hate on but if I did then it would destroy me, not the ones I could hate.
I know a lot of people just throw the word out there not really thinking about it being terrible but I believe it still can harm you indirectly, (subconsciously anyway).
I can dig this song
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There is a lot of Indie music that I dont care for much
Ex: I had some terrible things happen to me in my life that I could easily hate on but if I did then it would destroy me, not the ones I could hate.
I know a lot of people just throw the word out there not really thinking about it being terrible but I believe it still can harm you indirectly, (subconsciously anyway).
I can dig this song
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There is a lot of Indie music that I dont care for much