Nuclear Wessels
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Wondering what others think of this after a horse collapsed today. Apparently winter is a very busy season for them. Up to 10 hour days (or at least that's the law- as far as I know.)
Wouldn't trotting on extremely hard ground all day everyday be detrimental to hooves and joints no matter the shoeing?
The big problem I have with this is when the horses are not working they are stalled- they literally have absolutely no time to just be a horse in daily life. They do get a 5 week long vacation once a year but does that really make up for it? I think not.
I don't wanna hear "There are cruelty cases in every discipline blah blah" I KNOW that, it just seems almost impossible for this industry to not be horrible no matter the regulations they can put in place There's no hope for it in my eyes.
What I'm really asking is no matter how many regulations are put on the NYC carriage companies the horses are still trotting on asphalt, and stalled when they aren't working. How is that a good life for a horse? Zero turn-out is a big no no to me. No matter how nicely you treat the horse, they are still going to be messed up physically and probably mentally after a few years of work. There's like no way around it.
@Bliss: I would never believe a word anyone from PETA uttered. My facts/numbers have come from either representatives of NYC carriage companies, the drivers themselves or my own research.
I KNOW that there are cruelty cases in every discipline, but we're talking about carriage horses right now. What I'm really try to ge at is the lifestyle these horses live. Worked everyday and stalled when not working. No turn out is like the cardinal sin for me. If you've got a horse stalled 24/7 for any reason other than an injury, you don't deserve that horse. I don't care if it's a perty show horse you gotta keep clean and scar free.
And Charlie has nothing to do with what I'm getting at, he had only been a carriage horse for a little over two weeks and died right after leaving the stable. Obviously being in his line of work had nothing to do with his death.
Wouldn't trotting on extremely hard ground all day everyday be detrimental to hooves and joints no matter the shoeing?
The big problem I have with this is when the horses are not working they are stalled- they literally have absolutely no time to just be a horse in daily life. They do get a 5 week long vacation once a year but does that really make up for it? I think not.
I don't wanna hear "There are cruelty cases in every discipline blah blah" I KNOW that, it just seems almost impossible for this industry to not be horrible no matter the regulations they can put in place There's no hope for it in my eyes.
What I'm really asking is no matter how many regulations are put on the NYC carriage companies the horses are still trotting on asphalt, and stalled when they aren't working. How is that a good life for a horse? Zero turn-out is a big no no to me. No matter how nicely you treat the horse, they are still going to be messed up physically and probably mentally after a few years of work. There's like no way around it.
@Bliss: I would never believe a word anyone from PETA uttered. My facts/numbers have come from either representatives of NYC carriage companies, the drivers themselves or my own research.
I KNOW that there are cruelty cases in every discipline, but we're talking about carriage horses right now. What I'm really try to ge at is the lifestyle these horses live. Worked everyday and stalled when not working. No turn out is like the cardinal sin for me. If you've got a horse stalled 24/7 for any reason other than an injury, you don't deserve that horse. I don't care if it's a perty show horse you gotta keep clean and scar free.
And Charlie has nothing to do with what I'm getting at, he had only been a carriage horse for a little over two weeks and died right after leaving the stable. Obviously being in his line of work had nothing to do with his death.