is hand drawn really dead on television

If you were to ask my honest opinion (but you're asking the general TZ public,so...) I'd say it isn't dead.But a dying breed.There is hope for Disney as the esteemed Lasseter is making plans for a traditional animation revival with the hopeful-hit which will be The Frog Princess in 2009 and then he choose Phineas and Ferb over a Chicken Little series,so,yeah.Hand drawn isn't done quite yet.

As for the other currently popular animation format,with the exception of FHFIF and a few others,Flash is trash.To me anyway,others might not think so.But it's just a cheep way of making money and unless it has good storylines,pfft...:shrug:
 
Flash wasn't so bad when it first came out, with stuff like Mucha Lucha... but I tuned in to Cyberchase and was horrified that Nelvana switched the series to Flash. The character movements were stiff and looked dead. I just hated what they did, since I liked the hand drawn animation they had before. Now it has the same crappy animation Jacob Two Two has.

I really miss hand drawn myself. Leave Flash to the internet.
 
Flash can do a pretty damn good job of emulating hand-drawn stuff. Ever see BB3B? It wasn't particularly well-written, but man, it looked good. I'd never have known it was Flash if I hadn't read a behind-the-scenes article in a magazine.
 
Who does'nt miss hand-drawn animation? Flash and CGI are, for the most part,ugly (particulary the former).
The problem with the business is simple. Everyone has always been imitating each other's work. When people produce junk that everybody loves (animated sitcoms,flash,anime) that results with all of the lesser-known companies trying to copy them, to attempt to achieve similiar success. Junk results in imitations of junk. :D
It is a shame. :sad:
 
unfortunatley most of the cases I've seen, the animation looks horrendously stiff, and like... best exapmle I can come up with are Asian style (I think Indian, or Indonesian) shadow puppets. I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, though. When I animated stuff in flash, it basically was nothing but that short cut. But it works better online than it does on TV. And some Flash based animations are better than others.
 
And Spongebob is just as popular as ever. And we're getting new Oddparents episodes.

So no, on TV hand-drawn stuff is certainly not dead.
 
Yeah, the Homestar look. Not denying that that stuff exists (and almost certainly comprises the majority of Flash animation), just pointing out that, in theory, Flash can emulate TV-level hand drawn animation more or less at its best (which, let's face it, isn't that high a standard)
 
Actually, I don't mind Homestar's look at all. I mean, they do a cartoon about once a week, so of course they have to cut a corner or so. Plus, I think that Homestar looks much better than what I'm talking about. That Cyberchase episode I saw made me want to cry. it just... just doesn't work on television that well.

Though there are places like Soup 2 Nuts that does an excellent job with Flash for TV. I love how Word Girl looks. it really fits that way. But with Jacob Two Two, I just don't like how it looks.
 
To be honest I thought that people hated hand drawn stuff. I remember one group of people on another site were talking about how anime is never hand drawn anymore and they hate hand drawn stuff, but I never really joined that discussion.
 
How can anyone hate hand drawn stuff? There's a lot more effort and artistry in hand drawn work. As I stated earlier, Flash utilizes a lot of short cuts, which are better left to computer distribution. Homestar makes a cartoon nearly every week, and it only has about 2 people working on it. And that's some of the fullest limited Flash I've seen. Much much better than say, Jacob Two Two.

Still, you can hand draw something into digital. What I Really miss is cel animation, especially in anime. Yes, it looks rubbery... but I love that look.
 
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