Iron Man Trailer

Looks like it'll have pretty graphics, but I don't think it'll be a 'good' movie going on track record.

Nice to see Iron Man though, thank god he doesn't look much different than I'd imagine.
 
Superhero movies in general. Nothing in that trailer implies plot or character development, which tend to be what superhero movies lack, so it seems to be more of the same. Still though, looks pretty, and I'm glad they didn't butcher iron man.
 
mm the good to shitty ratio with superhero movies seems fairly even to me

good:
xmen
xmen2
spidey
spidey2
batman(burton)
batman begins
superman was ok

the fantastic 4 was pretty mediocre but the silliness was a welcome change from the serious batman begins and such. the hulk was mediocre too

shitty:
catwoman
daredevil
most of the batmans(forever, robin, etc)
xmen3
spidey3
I haven't seen ghost rider or elektra but i assume they are shitty
 
The only movie of those movies you just listed that I'd watch again for free if someone teleported me to a theater showing it would be Xmen2 and Spidey2, the rest are bad-horrid. The hulk was worse than most of those in the 'shitty' category, and you're forgetting some other superhero movies that didn't get as much press and were terrible, punisher, electra etc.
 
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batman begins and batman and spidey and xmen are definitely not 'bad-horrid'

yeah i wasn't sure about the hulk, i don't remember that movie much at all so i looked it up on rotten tomatoes and it is 61% good reviews, but i def remember that i didn't like it. I can't imagine it being worse than catwoman and daredevil

and no, I didn't forget elektra.


seems to me you just have an unexplainable beef with superhero movies
 
The fact that most of them are bad isn't really a beef so much as an observation.

Good (I'd watch again):
Xmen 2
Spiderman 2

Mediocre (Not bad, but I wouldn't watch again):
Spiderman 1
Xmen 1
Batman Begins
Fantastic 4 Silver Surfer

Bad:
Batman pre-begins (like 3 movies)
Hulk
Fantastic 4
Catwoman
Daredevil
Xmen 3
Spidey 3
Electra
Punisher
A ton I'm forgetting

Not very balanced at all.

It's really simple why they aren't good, the genre of 'Superhero movie' is in the same category as 'Sequel,' in that the movies are helmed by people whose only interest is to make money, the only reason the films are ever made is for money, and attempts to make a good film aren't emphasized because everyone is already going to go and see the film. Spiderman 4 could be the worst movie of all time, but if they release it in every theater in America it'll make 200mil opening weekend. Obviously movies are made for money, but with a lower-budget flick you might have directors/writers/actors that really care about the project and make it well, especially with people who both write and direct (Tarantino, Coen Brothers, Kevin Smith, Spike Lee, Scorsese, etc).

It's called a pre-sold franchise. It's why 99% (The only exception I can think of is Toy Story 2) of sequels are worse than the original but make more money, the movie is sold before anyone even goes to the theater.

When you have a superhero movie, there's not much reason to make it 'good.' No one goes to a superhero movie to see 'good,' all anyone wants to see is X hero from X comic book on-screen doing cool CGI and dishing out witty banter. The problem is that most superhero movies spend much more time 'developing' characters than fighting, and it gets boring. Spiderman 3 is a perfect example, the movie is 3 hours long with 10 minutes of CGI, all I went into that movie wanting to see was Venom and Spiderman fighting, and by the time that was onscreen I had literally left the theater, I came back later to see the ending before some other movie started. Some just fail for so many reasons you can't really count them at once, like Xmen3 and Catwoman. But the bottom line is they tend to suck. If there's anything the trailer for Iron Man is doing right, it's showing a ton of action, but then again the trailer to Spiderman 3 wouldn't have us believe we were walking into dawsons fucking creek, which is what the first 2.5 hours of that movie turned into.

/rant, most of them are bad. I have a 'beef' with bad films, not superhero movies. I honestly fear some of my favorite superheroes getting their own films though, god knows how much they'd fuck up the green lantern.
 
come now you can't put Tim Burton's batman in the same category as batman and robin and batman forever.

to each his own I guess, I really liked xmen, spidey, and BB

I have faith in Jon Favreau and my boy Robert



I'll be honest, I was entertained by the punisher, I enjoyed it.

it was pretty silly, but it definitely fit your "X hero from X comic book on-screen doing cool CGI and dishing out witty banter." minus the CGI
 
The Punisher was pretty good, way better than the Dolf Lundren(SP?) version. The new FF movie sucks balls, and why did they make Jessica Alba's character all dingy and shit in this one? They also fawked up her make up, I mean the bitch looked like a damn Albino! WTF
 
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