dolphin314etc
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you be harmed? Keep in mind that without a Federal Statute that gives cap and trade permissions to burn every picogram of coal that can be found or brought to USA, the states including your state would still have some regulatory over power plants. There are hearings. There's state law. There's possible future bills from the U.S. Congress -- maybe with better ideas than the cap and trade bill (written by Big Coal -- thanks K Street -- thanks a lot).
Keep in mind that if Medicare isn't scrapped by the new Obama-Care you might get free medical care and pharmaceuticals after you reach age 65, when you most need it. If that stuff is dismantled now, then when you become 65 it won't be there for you (just like Obama is about to take it away from me after paying into FICA all these years and waiting all these years to get my Medicare).
Gone for me now, but also gone for you later. See, what goes around comes around. Age 65, you can stand out in the street with your Obama-Care ID card, and stand in line with the illegal aliens, with the Medicaid cases, with the pauper's clinic cases, with the County hospital uninsured cases, there might be 2000 or 3000 of them out there. Just take your place in line, first come first served. We are all equal now. One aspirin each, and a bandaid, thank you so much.
If that's good enough for me (a decorated vet with service overseas) today, then it will be good enough for you when your time comes, right?
By the time you're 65 you know you're going to be a millionaire, right? So you can just go to Switzerland and get treated at a world-class clinic there.
But heaven help you if you're mistaken.
The fate you give me today, will be your own fate when the time comes, assuming you work 40 quarters and qualify for Medicare.
Obama's idea is to "spread the wealth around".
So 200 million people with perfectly satisfactory insurance and healthcare arrangements can just move over and make room for his 50 million uninsured uninsurable poor darlings that aren't getting enough, and need more, (need yours, need mine), let's just "spread the wealth around".
Socialized medicine failed in UK and in Canada. Socialism failed every time it was tried, anywhere, period.
You think you would be harmed if the Obama-Care Bill went in the trashcan like the Hillary-Care Bill did.
Think before you answer -- don't forget the goes around comes around part. Break Medicare now, and it's gone, not coming back, won't be there for you.
Social Security (including Medicare) is the only Federal Program that has had enduring success.
Down through the years since the 1930's, and now just as then, it is a form of insurance, like a contract, that we have kept with citizens who work 40 quarters and pay their FICA taxes. (Now of course we also pay out crazy money to people who have never paid a penny of FICA taxes, that's called SSI, and it's part of the reason Medicare only has about 12 years of solvency left).
But, if Obama destroys Medicare, you surely will be harmed.
If his Bill goes in the trash, how would you be harmed? Please tell me.
Keep in mind that if Medicare isn't scrapped by the new Obama-Care you might get free medical care and pharmaceuticals after you reach age 65, when you most need it. If that stuff is dismantled now, then when you become 65 it won't be there for you (just like Obama is about to take it away from me after paying into FICA all these years and waiting all these years to get my Medicare).
Gone for me now, but also gone for you later. See, what goes around comes around. Age 65, you can stand out in the street with your Obama-Care ID card, and stand in line with the illegal aliens, with the Medicaid cases, with the pauper's clinic cases, with the County hospital uninsured cases, there might be 2000 or 3000 of them out there. Just take your place in line, first come first served. We are all equal now. One aspirin each, and a bandaid, thank you so much.
If that's good enough for me (a decorated vet with service overseas) today, then it will be good enough for you when your time comes, right?
By the time you're 65 you know you're going to be a millionaire, right? So you can just go to Switzerland and get treated at a world-class clinic there.
But heaven help you if you're mistaken.
The fate you give me today, will be your own fate when the time comes, assuming you work 40 quarters and qualify for Medicare.
Obama's idea is to "spread the wealth around".
So 200 million people with perfectly satisfactory insurance and healthcare arrangements can just move over and make room for his 50 million uninsured uninsurable poor darlings that aren't getting enough, and need more, (need yours, need mine), let's just "spread the wealth around".
Socialized medicine failed in UK and in Canada. Socialism failed every time it was tried, anywhere, period.
You think you would be harmed if the Obama-Care Bill went in the trashcan like the Hillary-Care Bill did.
Think before you answer -- don't forget the goes around comes around part. Break Medicare now, and it's gone, not coming back, won't be there for you.
Social Security (including Medicare) is the only Federal Program that has had enduring success.
Down through the years since the 1930's, and now just as then, it is a form of insurance, like a contract, that we have kept with citizens who work 40 quarters and pay their FICA taxes. (Now of course we also pay out crazy money to people who have never paid a penny of FICA taxes, that's called SSI, and it's part of the reason Medicare only has about 12 years of solvency left).
But, if Obama destroys Medicare, you surely will be harmed.
If his Bill goes in the trash, how would you be harmed? Please tell me.