Imam XIII The Fallible
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as par with Koran?
Based on the logic that he is infallible, hence his book(s) is/are also 100% error free.
Based on the logic that he is infallible, hence his book(s) is/are also 100% error free.
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If a man is called INFALLIBLE, then if he authors a book(s), is it (the book) not
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Nur-el-Masih Ben Haq
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BUT THE QUR'AN IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ERROR FREE!!!!
First of all, the current version of the Qur'an (the Uthmanic Version) is based on seven guess readings or guess expressions as the actual reading or expression has been forgotten because when the Qur'an was first written the copyists did not use diacritical marks. So, with passage of time sahabas began to read the Qur'an in ways that differ from one another. Initially, the readings of 14 people were shortlisted. Later, the readings of 7 of them were NECESSARILY selected. This phenomenon is CLEVERLY downplayed as "VARIANT READINGS" by Muslim scholars.
Examples of the SEVEN different ways that the Qur’an is expressed:. Some read a phrase in surat al-Qaria: 81 as:
"Kal' ihni'l-man-fush" while others read it as "Kassafi'l-manfush"
ii. Some read surat al-Jum'a: 9 as:
"fas'aw ila dhikri'llah" while others read it as "famdu ila dhikrillah"
iii. Some read surat al-Baqara: 61 as:
"alaihimu' dh-dhillata wa'l-maskanata" while others read it as "alaihimu'l-maskanata wa'dh-dhillata"
English Explanation
i. Some read the 19th ayat of surat Saba' as, 'Rabbana ba'id baina asfarina'. Which means, 'Our Rabb! Take our books way from us? It is an invocation to Allah.
Some read it as, 'Rabbana ba'ada baina asfarina' which means, 'Our Rabb has taken our books away from us"
ii. Some read the 115th ayat of surat Ma'ida as, 'Hal yastati'u Rabbuka', which means 'Will your Rabb accept your prayer?'.
Some read it as, 'Hal tastali'u Rabbaka,' which means, 'Will you pray to your Rabb' ".
In his edition, a leading English Qur'an translator, Abdullah Yusuf Ali, explains two examples of the variant meanings among the present Qur'ans:
Qur'an 5:6
"...wash your faces...and (wash) your feet" and
"...wash your faces and wipe your heads and (wipe) your feet"
The evidences of mutilations even in the current (Uthmanic) version of the Qur'an include the following:
a. ALIF. LAM. MIN (which has been rendered meaningless by wrongful removal of some connective letters or words)
b. KAF. YA. A. IN. SAD " "
c. TA. SIN " "
d. ALIF. LAM. MIN. SAD " "
e. TA. SIN. MIN " "
f. ALIF. LAM. RA. " "
g. ALIF. LAM. MIN. RA etc etc. These evident corruptions occurred more than thirty (30) times in the Qur'an. What is clear is that God could not have made such meaningless statements. And if He did Prophet Muhammad would logically have asked Him (God) their meanings.
Similarly, Qur'an says the Earth is FLAT, the Sun runs to its place of resting; Duhlqernein had gone to the both places where the Sun rises and sets among other errors.
First of all, the current version of the Qur'an (the Uthmanic Version) is based on seven guess readings or guess expressions as the actual reading or expression has been forgotten because when the Qur'an was first written the copyists did not use diacritical marks. So, with passage of time sahabas began to read the Qur'an in ways that differ from one another. Initially, the readings of 14 people were shortlisted. Later, the readings of 7 of them were NECESSARILY selected. This phenomenon is CLEVERLY downplayed as "VARIANT READINGS" by Muslim scholars.
Examples of the SEVEN different ways that the Qur’an is expressed:. Some read a phrase in surat al-Qaria: 81 as:
"Kal' ihni'l-man-fush" while others read it as "Kassafi'l-manfush"
ii. Some read surat al-Jum'a: 9 as:
"fas'aw ila dhikri'llah" while others read it as "famdu ila dhikrillah"
iii. Some read surat al-Baqara: 61 as:
"alaihimu' dh-dhillata wa'l-maskanata" while others read it as "alaihimu'l-maskanata wa'dh-dhillata"
English Explanation
i. Some read the 19th ayat of surat Saba' as, 'Rabbana ba'id baina asfarina'. Which means, 'Our Rabb! Take our books way from us? It is an invocation to Allah.
Some read it as, 'Rabbana ba'ada baina asfarina' which means, 'Our Rabb has taken our books away from us"
ii. Some read the 115th ayat of surat Ma'ida as, 'Hal yastati'u Rabbuka', which means 'Will your Rabb accept your prayer?'.
Some read it as, 'Hal tastali'u Rabbaka,' which means, 'Will you pray to your Rabb' ".
In his edition, a leading English Qur'an translator, Abdullah Yusuf Ali, explains two examples of the variant meanings among the present Qur'ans:
Qur'an 5:6
"...wash your faces...and (wash) your feet" and
"...wash your faces and wipe your heads and (wipe) your feet"
The evidences of mutilations even in the current (Uthmanic) version of the Qur'an include the following:
a. ALIF. LAM. MIN (which has been rendered meaningless by wrongful removal of some connective letters or words)
b. KAF. YA. A. IN. SAD " "
c. TA. SIN " "
d. ALIF. LAM. MIN. SAD " "
e. TA. SIN. MIN " "
f. ALIF. LAM. RA. " "
g. ALIF. LAM. MIN. RA etc etc. These evident corruptions occurred more than thirty (30) times in the Qur'an. What is clear is that God could not have made such meaningless statements. And if He did Prophet Muhammad would logically have asked Him (God) their meanings.
Similarly, Qur'an says the Earth is FLAT, the Sun runs to its place of resting; Duhlqernein had gone to the both places where the Sun rises and sets among other errors.