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not? Or would you run? DO YOU believe that Satan exists? Today, many do not. It seems they view such a belief as “unscientific.” Even back in 1911, the Encyclopædia Britannica said: “Science has so explained many of the processes of outer nature and of the inner life of man as to leave no room for Satanic agency.” Theologians reason that Satan isÂ*just a symbol, a myth. TheÂ*World Book Encyclopedia states: “Many modern theologians consider the Devil to be a symbol of the power of evil, of the worst qualities of human nature.”

If you believe in the Bible, you have to believe that Satan is real. Jesus not only believed he existed but called him “the ruler of the world.” (John 14:30) The apostle Paul called Satan “the god of this system of things.” (2Â*Corinthians 4:4) And the aged apostle John said: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.”—1Â*John 5:19.

Peter warned: “Be watchful. Your adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour somene.” (1Â*Peter 5:8)
 
If an invisible flying goblin was loose in your neighborhood, would you be discussing whether it existed or not? Or would you run?

Did you know that there is a difference between your beliefs and the objective truth?

Did you know that not knowing this makes christians seem incredibly unintelligent and narrow minded?

Did you know that your jesus never existed, and his character is a knock-off of earlier, cooler gods?

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/jesus_similar.html
http://www.medmalexperts.com/POCM/getting_started_pocm.html

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/jesus.html
http://nobeliefs.com/exist.htm
http://www.inu.net/skeptic/exist.html
http://www.atheists.org/christianity/didjesusexist.html

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

Did you know that the bible is a pretty horrible book?
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
 
Do I have this right? Are you comparing a LION to the DEVIL??? OMG... Alright... For starters, a lion is an ANIMAL. Okay? A beautiful, regal, harmless (unless you're a zebra or an antelope) ANIMAL. The Devil is said to be "evil"; that implies INTENT. A LION'S (animal's) actions are dictated by INSTINCT. Okay? HUGE difference.

And lions, obviously, are REAL; they EXIST. I've personally seen many of them, and I've even petted a couple of them. Their existence has been PHYSICALLY PROVEN beyond all reasonable doubt. The Devil, on the other hand, has NEVER been PHYSICALLY PROVEN to exist beyond all reasonable doubt. Okay? HUGE difference.

In my opinion, Satan and Hell were fabricated by the early Church as methods of keeping the masses in line -- basically as scare tactics. ("Believe in God and worship him, or you'll go to Hell and burn there with Satan for all eternity!") Satan also makes an all-too-handy scapegoat on whom Christians can pin all of their "sins", so they don't have to take that responsibility onto themselves. ("That wasn't my fault -- the DEVIL made me do it!")
 
If a lion is set loose in my neighbourhood, first of all I would be able to see and hear it. Never the case with the devil. I haven't seen or heard the devil anywhere.

Second, I would run like feck, because if I can see and hear it I would immediately assume it is a real threat.

Once I'm in a safe place I will decide whether or not the lion was real.




... If I can't see or hear the lion, I might go looking for it. If my search comes up with nothing, I will simply decide that the lion doesn't exist and that I was chasing ghosts.
 
Thanks for pointing out that Theologians believe in Satan, I might have lived my entire life ignorant of that gem of wisdom.
As to the lion, I stand a much better chance against it if I stand my ground. It's a predator, and is designed to outpace me. Running simply tires me out, and makes me an easier kill. I'll rely on my courage, wits, and ability to use all manner of things on hand to defend myself.
I'm not afraid of lions, not even ones that don't exist.
I have faith in the Strongest Power in the Universe; the human desire to survive.
 
Let me tell you something. If you believe that houses are haunted then you believe in demons...Because ghosts are just that .........demons.
They don't play...they are out to kill us all.They could have killed Job but God said not to...so they made him so miserable he wanted to die.

Whoever values their life and well being better look like believing and quick!

they never sleep and there are millions of them just looking to lead you astray ...most of the world is lying in the power of the wicked one..he even tempted Jesus..he watches us and knows what works..he'll try porn, materialism, your kids, your friends..whatever he can do to turn you against God..he has you!...then once he does he will crash you to the ground..all he wanted was for you to worship him...just once.....
Keep an eye on your children...he knows how to get to them
 
Funny you should mention this about lions, because in 1977 there was a carnival in the field behind my house and I was walking from the woods to my house across the field. As I was walking, I noticed this huge Nubian man walking towards me and waving his arms. I plodded along (how the hell was I supposed to know that a full grown lion was crouching not more than sixty feet away from me in the grass?), and then I saw him pointing to a place just in front of me. I stopped and looked real hard until I spotted its head through the weeds. I froze- utterly still. The Nubian man came to where I was and told me to not move until he got the leash and rope around the lion's neck. Believe me - I did not run or make any sudden moves at all until he had the lion (which I was petting an hour later; it was "tame") under his complete control.

That Nubian man was twice the size of Hulk Hogan. I honestly don't believe the lion would've been a match for a man that gargantuan in size. His biceps were absolutely massive. I was more afraid of him than the lion!


Would Satan have done that for me? I doubt it. I would've been "Roman bait" for sure.

Which is to say your analogy is not working at all.
 
a guy walks up to a street trader and says, "what are you selling", "i'm selling anti-tiger pills, take one every day and you'll never be attacked by tigers". the trader informed him. "don't be stupid", replied the guy, "there's no tigers in this country". "ah, see they work", said the trader triumphantly.

religion sells you anti-tiger pills.
 
Discussing it.

I know a few things:

#1. European Badgers and Lions do not usually encounter each other due to living in radically different parts of the world and different ecosystems. I, through my exposure to human discovery, know what a lion is. Most badgers, if told about a loose "lion", would immediately question what it was due primarily to not knowing.

#2. Lions are larger than Badgers. Setts, made for Badgers by Badgers, are Badger-sized. A lion could not get any more than its head into our home... and aren't very suited to digging. Therefore a sett is a safe place to hide from a lion, rendering "running" unnecessary.

#3. Even if outside, running would be futile. Lions run faster than humans and definitely faster than Badgers. Humans operate better when standing still and given the time to consider "using" their surroundings. Badgers are generally better off hiding and / or digging. The action of running would give the lion the advantage and is thus inadvisable.

#4. Lions don't generally hunt alone. Lions are social animals, and if there is only one lion then it must be in an unfavourable position. It is unlikely to go looking for trouble unless exceedingly hungry, and even then it is off its usual game. "Neighbourhood" implies a social setting with many individuals, which given social creatures implies the home advantage. The lion under these circumstances is, in fact, the vulnerable target. A lion loose in a human neighbourhood... alone... is probably a very scared lion and is more interested in getting home or hiding than attacking people at random.




So now I have a question to level at you:

If a lion was NOT loose in your neighbourhood, would you be discussing whether it existed or not.... or would you be running away from an absent lion?
 
Where your analogy fails utterly is here:

There is a precedent for lions really and actually existing in the world.

The same can not be said for your god or devil -- or are you conceding that all the other gods, from all the other religions that were worshipped all over the world throughout the millennia, are also real?
 
True story.....there was once a circus near my house. I walked out of my house to go to the store, and a tiger walked right passed me. He looked at me, I thought I was going to die and he just kept going. They caught him about 10 minutes later.
 
i like all cats, so i would try to get him safely outta there quick, before some trigger-happy cop, kills it.
 
Ignoring your pathetic homiletics, if a lion was loose in my neighborhood, I would inform the police, who would take action in securing the neighborhood while the zoo folks arrived to capture the lion.

As for the rest of your babble, my personal friend Peter says nothing of the sort.
 
The warning is there. The evidence is all around so I would flee to safety. Satan is real and exists. Jesus acknowledged him as the "God of this system, and ruler of the world", as you have cited. One must take in accurate knowledge of the Bible and study it daily to find out how to flee Satan and his machinations. If you let your guard down you may be devoured by this cunning adversary of Jehovah and lose your life. Just because you cannot see the actual person of Satan does not mean he does not exist. Look around at the ungodly things in the world, starving children, wars, greed, pestilence and know that Jehovah is not responsible, but the God of this world, Satan the devil is and he has a short time left in which to cause more havoc. 1 John 5:19. Let the wise one use discernment. Wiley and cunning he is for many here do not even believe the scriptures cited or that he even exists. He is licking his chops anticipating a feast for he has won some over.
 
Hmm...

Would I go outside and start running around... if I knew there was a large predator around.. tough one...

I don't think so. Why?
 
I will keep that in mind. But honestly I try to fess up to my own misdoings and grow spiritually. Not just play the blame game. But thanks.
 
Because of unbelief

They want to see before they believe; they want to see that they are indeed in a burning house before they move out of the house
 
interesting question. Ask a liberal who would probably say that lions are inherently peaceful, though the occasional one is acting badly and therefore in an anti-lionish fashion. And that the majority of lions are actually very peaceful and moderate and that we should welcome them in our midsts. Probably.
 
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