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No matter what you say Hip Hop is still the biggest selling genre. You`ve taken the context of what I said in the wrong way. Which is fair enough , I didn`t explain what I meant properly. I meant the percentage of rock music being bought in comparison to other genres is the lowest it`s ever been.
") Anonymous ")
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Singles wise, yes, but album wise, not by a long way. Other than the massive rap-pop acts there isn't anything like the same sort of market. Rap/R & B album sales are a little above that of metal sales, and in some parts of the country (midlanRAB and Northern Ireland) metal albums outsell R & B.
top ten selling albums of 2004:
1. "Confessions," Usher: 7,978,594
2. "Feels Like Home," Norah Jones: 3,842,920
3. "Encore," Eminem: 3,517,097
4. "When The Sun Goes Down," Kenny Chesney: 3,072,224
5. "Here for the Party," Gretchen Wilson: 2,931,097
6. "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw: 2,786,840
7. "Songs About Jane," Maroon 5: 2,708,415
8. "Fallen," Evanesence: 2,614,226
9. "Autobiography," Ashlee Simpson: 2,576,945
10. "Now 16: Now That's What I Call Music!": 2,560,316
in general, pop, hip hop, and country are the top selling albums in the US. I dont know how it is elsewhere.
1. "Confessions," Usher: 7,978,594
2. "Feels Like Home," Norah Jones: 3,842,920
3. "Encore," Eminem: 3,517,097
4. "When The Sun Goes Down," Kenny Chesney: 3,072,224
5. "Here for the Party," Gretchen Wilson: 2,931,097
6. "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw: 2,786,840
7. "Songs About Jane," Maroon 5: 2,708,415
8. "Fallen," Evanesence: 2,614,226
9. "Autobiography," Ashlee Simpson: 2,576,945
10. "Now 16: Now That's What I Call Music!": 2,560,316
in general, pop, hip hop, and country are the top selling albums in the US. I dont know how it is elsewhere.
Queen Kira
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1 Scissor Sisters - 'Scissor Sisters'
2 Keane - 'Hopes And Fears'
3 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits
4 Maroon 5 - 'Songs About Jane'
5 Katie Melua - 'Call Off The Search'
6 Anastacia - 'Anastacia'
7 Usher - 'Confessions'
8 Norah Jones - 'Feels Like Home'
9 Snow Patrol - 'Final Straw'
1o Il Divo - 'Il Divo'
That was the UK's top sellers for 2004, three of the top 5 coming under the rock bracket.
2 Keane - 'Hopes And Fears'
3 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits
4 Maroon 5 - 'Songs About Jane'
5 Katie Melua - 'Call Off The Search'
6 Anastacia - 'Anastacia'
7 Usher - 'Confessions'
8 Norah Jones - 'Feels Like Home'
9 Snow Patrol - 'Final Straw'
1o Il Divo - 'Il Divo'
That was the UK's top sellers for 2004, three of the top 5 coming under the rock bracket.
I have to do that same thing in french at the mo, it sucks 
I think Im just gonna write about a few of the mainstream groups, and say about the top 40. I think theres a variety in the top 40 stuff, its never all the same genre really.. Oh yeah, and Im writin about the other genres of course, and sayin that there can be alot of controversy between 'em.
Ok so Im fairly sure that wont have helped you at all, but hey, I tried.
I think Im just gonna write about a few of the mainstream groups, and say about the top 40. I think theres a variety in the top 40 stuff, its never all the same genre really.. Oh yeah, and Im writin about the other genres of course, and sayin that there can be alot of controversy between 'em.Ok so Im fairly sure that wont have helped you at all, but hey, I tried.
johncoolgun
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3 of the top 5 ?
I see 2 rock banRAB in that entire list.
And the UK`s sales figures hardly make a difference in the world market.
I see 2 rock banRAB in that entire list.
And the UK`s sales figures hardly make a difference in the world market.
Mitch Rawlings
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The mainstream music industry is in the worst state ever at the moment. But then it`s never really been great ever.
The problem lies in that most people seem to be under the impression they are listening to something else especially in rock music, let me explain.
We`re forever being told that Nirvana were the breakthrough band , the band that bought the underground mainstream. But that didn`t happen. What happened was what happened every other time a new fad came along.They just ditched all the banRAB they had that were out of date & signed up endless Nirvana clones with no musical value whatsoever.
Now, this is the bit that I hate the most.
During the 90s when this so called underground 'breakout' was supposed to have happened , the music industry were buying each other out so we got to a point were there were only 5 companies owned virtually everything.
You can see for yourself here ...
http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/record.html
These record companies seeing there was something in this 'alternative' movement played along with it, forming new subsiduary labels , playing off the anti-mainstreamism & basically conning people that they were listening to independant music.
And people were stupid enough to fall for it.
I have to be honest & say i`ve never seen the independant music scene in such a state , yet people are still under the illusion that they are listening to fresh new music . In reality the record industry are just doing what they have always done. When they come across a band that sells recorRAB they just find hundreRAB of clone acts.
When Nirvana kicked off we were still getting grunge banRAB forced down our throats for the next few years.
Then when banRAB like & Green Day & Limp Bizkit made it big , suddenly we were drowning in crap nu metal & pop punk banRAB.
As soon as the White Stripes sold a few albums , every 2 bit garage band were being offered major label deals
When Coldplay made it big , now we are still being inundated with soundalike banRAB even today.
The music industry has manipulated people into thinking that they are listening to an alternative , when in reality all thats happening is they are forcing the same soundalike crap onto us & dressing it up as an 'alternative'.
I think the biggest shame in all this was that the internet could have done something about this , but it hasn`t. Everytime I walk into a record store I see less & less music not put out by 'The big 5' companies.
The problem lies in that most people seem to be under the impression they are listening to something else especially in rock music, let me explain.
We`re forever being told that Nirvana were the breakthrough band , the band that bought the underground mainstream. But that didn`t happen. What happened was what happened every other time a new fad came along.They just ditched all the banRAB they had that were out of date & signed up endless Nirvana clones with no musical value whatsoever.
Now, this is the bit that I hate the most.
During the 90s when this so called underground 'breakout' was supposed to have happened , the music industry were buying each other out so we got to a point were there were only 5 companies owned virtually everything.
You can see for yourself here ...
http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/record.html
These record companies seeing there was something in this 'alternative' movement played along with it, forming new subsiduary labels , playing off the anti-mainstreamism & basically conning people that they were listening to independant music.
And people were stupid enough to fall for it.
I have to be honest & say i`ve never seen the independant music scene in such a state , yet people are still under the illusion that they are listening to fresh new music . In reality the record industry are just doing what they have always done. When they come across a band that sells recorRAB they just find hundreRAB of clone acts.
When Nirvana kicked off we were still getting grunge banRAB forced down our throats for the next few years.
Then when banRAB like & Green Day & Limp Bizkit made it big , suddenly we were drowning in crap nu metal & pop punk banRAB.
As soon as the White Stripes sold a few albums , every 2 bit garage band were being offered major label deals
When Coldplay made it big , now we are still being inundated with soundalike banRAB even today.
The music industry has manipulated people into thinking that they are listening to an alternative , when in reality all thats happening is they are forcing the same soundalike crap onto us & dressing it up as an 'alternative'.
I think the biggest shame in all this was that the internet could have done something about this , but it hasn`t. Everytime I walk into a record store I see less & less music not put out by 'The big 5' companies.
Well clearly you're using genres as a chance to split hairs, which is your own perogative. Scissor Sisters, Keane, Maroon 5 and Snow Patrol are all listed as rock banRAB, that's four from the top ten sellers of 2004. the pattern continues the further down the chart you go as well.
And the U.K. actually comprises 1/5 of the world's music market, so our sales figures do make a pretty considerable difference.
And the U.K. actually comprises 1/5 of the world's music market, so our sales figures do make a pretty considerable difference.
VERONICA EMMA CHUNG
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Ok I wouldnt class any of those banRAB as rock myself, but if you went into a a HMV, they'd be under the 'rock/pop' section . So he's right really, hardly anyone classes them as rock, theyre just listed there.
Personally, I like all the banRAB that Urban Hatemonger mentioned abouve, however you also need to mention in your paper that the mainstream music industry IS the music industry in general. that's what it has become...clones...clones and more clones...however, the underground is all music that true MUSIC fans will pick up on first, so we really determine who these ass hole managers pick up...what they do to them through processing is another matter.
roswelldreamer
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Thats true, I guess it is its own genre.. It'd be wierd to see both rock and pop in there together.
Ah so thats another genre. Y'know one day Im gonna sit down and count all the genres and sub-genres.. *Sigh* Could be fun I guess...
Ah so thats another genre. Y'know one day Im gonna sit down and count all the genres and sub-genres.. *Sigh* Could be fun I guess...
"True music fans"?? So basically what youre saying is that if you dont listen to the underground music, youre not a real fan of music?? What a load of bull****. All music is music, you cant just say that because its mainstream its not music. Thats one of the stupidest things Ive heard.
olliewilko
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I`m not denying that , but as a whole Hip Hop has overtaken Rock.