I know somone on Heroine.

The-Cool-Geek

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I am not going to name who they are and they are close to me... I am so mad when I think about it I can hardly breath. They play it off like they're not doing anything wrong like they... UGH. LIKE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM OR ANYONE AROUND THEM. That's how an addict works. They picked the drugs over their family and friends. Just venting. Just venting.

Breathe, Klas, BREATHE.

I don't want it to kill them...
 
I wish I could be on a female hero.

To actually add, if you're concerned then talk to them. Just realize that they may not be able to be helped until they experience serious consequences. Also, and I don't presume to know anything here, but try not to assume addiction from use.
 
One of my friends almost died from smoking black tar female hero.

Very scary shit.

I still can't believe how dumb it was of him to get into that shit. Like, what the FUCK was he thinking?
 
Like Jung said, if their values have been so warped, that they consider heroin use to be "not a big deal" the only thing that will change them is to hit rock bottom.
 
Fuck... a friend of mine is smart enough to actually get somewhere in life, but she's stuck with smoking pot, drinking anything she can (alcohol-wise), and trying random other drugs if they're offered to her. She's done E a few times, tried shrooms, done acid once that I know of. She says she wants to clean up, and yet she does nothing to change who she hangs out with or anything.

I hate to see it happen, but at the same time I know what is going to happen. And she wonders why I can tell her what happened when she's telling me what happened in a night.

It's too predictable. Way too fucking predictable. And there's not a fucking thing I can do about it.
 
I use to be an cocaine and heroin addict. I had been using around twelve for about four to five years, finally managed to get clean, and it's a task that shouldn't be taken lightly.

Addicts don't think about others, it's more of a me, me, and when's the next time I can get my fix thought process, but you have to realize what they're living down. Yes, they can act like it doesn't affect them, but it does, they don't have the strength to actually get clean. Addiction is a terrible disease, and it affects not only you but the ones you love. It's hell to wake up and realize everyday the monster you have become, and it's even harder to change that. Addiction is like a slow form of suicide, some people know they're doing it to themselves, but some don't. They won't get clean because of anything you tell them, and if they do they're bound to use again. Your friend has to learn for them self, and they have to get clean for them self, no one else. They won't happen until they reach the very bottom, and from there find a way either to bury themselves alive, or get clean.

The choice is up to them in the end, and becoming sober isn't easy at all, especially with heroin. Heroin withdrawals are among the worst in my opinion, and that's from personal experience. I would compare it with your bones try to crawl and rip their way out of you skin, never ending nausea, constant vomiting for some. You'll curse and swear the day your mother gave birth to you, and pray for death. Yeah, it's that bad, well I got clean off everything at once. It's best to stay away from heroin, no matter the circumstance, because in the end it's even worse than the beginning. At most, all you can do is support them when they decide to get clean, and once your an addict, you always are. You just have to learn to control you urges and abstain from all drugs period.

Once a cucumber becomes a pickle, and no matter how much that pickle wants to be a cucumber again, it's always going to be a pickle.
 
I thought heroin was the most addictive street drug there was or was that crack... Anyway, I'm so sorry to hear this Klas. I was married to a crack addict and I can say he/she will more than likely not quit until they have hit rock bottom. Rarely, will someone see the damage it's doing until all the consequences are staring them in the face. Be strong but most importantly, don't enable him/her by tolerating it. Tough love isn't called that because it sounds cool. :sad:
 
I know they won't be helped unless they want to. They had an opportunity to get out of it and chose the drugs. A sad state of affairs...

I wanna curb stomp them. I'd rather me kill them than some stupid drug.
 
Waoow I think I've seen way too much "give up hope" in this thread than I care to.

If you truly value your friendship then you're turning down -what is going to be- a very rocky road.

Always be there for your friend to listen to, and to talk to. To hug, to know they always have someone when they need them -for moral support.

Do not feed their addiction in any way. Do not offer rides, money, food or clothing if they are spending all of their resources on heroin. Allow them the knowledge that until they seek out favorable recovery you won't be a stepping stool into the cupboard of misfortune.

It'll only hurt you if you help them in those ways, but don't stop being their friend unless that friendship is hurting YOU. THEN you need to walk away, but don't give up on them until that time because they'll really respect your friendship when they're done-if it doesn't kill them. You might need to prepare for that to happen.
 
I was married to an addict and it sounds very cliche' but you really can't do anything unless they are ready to do something.

Many years ago I had a good friend, she was such a beautiful girl, smart, great sense of humor, hooked on heroin. On more than one occassion I happened to be one of a handful that found her as she had over dosed but in enough time that 911 was able to save her.
I stayed a true friend EVEN when it was hurting me, then one day a day I had decided I needed to be there for me, she over dosed again, that time no one was around to help her and she passed. One of the MOST heartbreaking moments of my entire life and I will always have the feeling of "if I had just been there". It's a feeling that isn't fair to leave on a friends shoulders but I know that's not what she wanted to leave all of us with, she was hooked in a vice grip that was too much for her to escape without the will to do so.......

Im sorry you are going through this with someone you care about....:sad:
 
My brother was on that shit. But when it was dirty and expensive. He would steal from us all the time. It was a friend of mine who told me about seeing him do it. Of course we noticed a huge difference in his attitude and always taking naps. then all the bullshit started happening.

Anyways, I'm not a drug expert. But I was watching something about how Wall-street tycoons were sniffing it. It was actually pure enough to sniff in small doses. This would get them through the day and they were the best traders of all.

Anyways, If it doesn't kill him now it's gonna eat his liver away. That's how Crosby from CS&N. Normally someone who has a damaged liver related to drugs wouldn't be put on a doners list. Bust he had friends in high places. Hmmm High places. hehe
 
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