Kaine™ (TBG)
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1.) God is by definition, the greatest being conceivable.
2.) God exists in the mind.
3.) To exist in reality and in the mind is greater than to exist in the mind alone.
Conclusion: God must exist in reality, as well as the mind. If God did not, then by definition he would not be the greatest being conceivable.
I have a whole bunch of things that I see wrong with this particular argument however, there is one in particular.
If I were to imagine the greatest being conceivable, this being would not experience jealousy, nor would it commit infanticide, or require sacrifice as a loop hole for a punishment that he himself established.
So really how can Christians use the Ontological argument, since (according tot he description given of him in the Bible) Yahweh isn't what most would imagine as "the greatest being conceivable".
@ random_jpg: Yes this is true, but that leads to another fault with the argument. What would be the criteria for "greatness" anyway? Since the Bible clearly puts the description of God's personality in human terms, then how can anyone even know that those are his actual qualities. They could be more or a less some variation of how we perceive those qualities.
2.) God exists in the mind.
3.) To exist in reality and in the mind is greater than to exist in the mind alone.
Conclusion: God must exist in reality, as well as the mind. If God did not, then by definition he would not be the greatest being conceivable.
I have a whole bunch of things that I see wrong with this particular argument however, there is one in particular.
If I were to imagine the greatest being conceivable, this being would not experience jealousy, nor would it commit infanticide, or require sacrifice as a loop hole for a punishment that he himself established.
So really how can Christians use the Ontological argument, since (according tot he description given of him in the Bible) Yahweh isn't what most would imagine as "the greatest being conceivable".
@ random_jpg: Yes this is true, but that leads to another fault with the argument. What would be the criteria for "greatness" anyway? Since the Bible clearly puts the description of God's personality in human terms, then how can anyone even know that those are his actual qualities. They could be more or a less some variation of how we perceive those qualities.