Felonius Monkey
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For example conservatives claim that healthcare reform will create death panels. The truth - one of the bills which was actually cosponsored by a Republican called for non-binding voluntary counseling for the elderly on end-of-life issues.
They claim that healthcare reform is adding to the deficit. The truth - Obama has repeatedly stated he will not sign any bill unless the associated costs are paid for.
They claim that Obama wants socialized medicine. The truth - none of the bills currently in Congress call for socialized medicine.
And here's the kicker - when conservatives are called out on these truths they respond with "You Drank the Kool-Aid" or "Obama is a Socialist" or some other catchphrase that doesn't have any bearing on the truth.
Boozy - You said, "FACT: If you want health insurance you can pay for it." There are actually tens of millions of people who want health insurance but cannot afford to pay for it.
Peace:
Section 123 of HR 3200 creates panels responsible for deciding what care will be ALLOWED.
Incorrect - the panel offers non-binding, voluntary counseling to seniors. It does not make deicions on which procedures are allowed.
CONGRESS claimed HR 3200 will add to the deficit. Obama has repeatedly DEMANDED its rapid passage. YOU LIE by disclaiming this.
Incorrect - While Obama has called for rapid passage, he has repeatedly stated he will not sign a bill unless it is deficit neutral.
HR 3200 is PLAINLY socialized medicine. YOU LIE by disclaiming this.
Incorrect - Socialized medicine has no private component. All the current reform bills call for private physicians, hospitals, labs, clinics and medical equipment companies.
Obama has REPEATEDLY called for government-operated single-payer care, which you KNOW is what people mean by "socialized medicine." YOU LIE by disclaiming this.
*sigh* See above
They claim that healthcare reform is adding to the deficit. The truth - Obama has repeatedly stated he will not sign any bill unless the associated costs are paid for.
They claim that Obama wants socialized medicine. The truth - none of the bills currently in Congress call for socialized medicine.
And here's the kicker - when conservatives are called out on these truths they respond with "You Drank the Kool-Aid" or "Obama is a Socialist" or some other catchphrase that doesn't have any bearing on the truth.
Boozy - You said, "FACT: If you want health insurance you can pay for it." There are actually tens of millions of people who want health insurance but cannot afford to pay for it.
Peace:
Section 123 of HR 3200 creates panels responsible for deciding what care will be ALLOWED.
Incorrect - the panel offers non-binding, voluntary counseling to seniors. It does not make deicions on which procedures are allowed.
CONGRESS claimed HR 3200 will add to the deficit. Obama has repeatedly DEMANDED its rapid passage. YOU LIE by disclaiming this.
Incorrect - While Obama has called for rapid passage, he has repeatedly stated he will not sign a bill unless it is deficit neutral.
HR 3200 is PLAINLY socialized medicine. YOU LIE by disclaiming this.
Incorrect - Socialized medicine has no private component. All the current reform bills call for private physicians, hospitals, labs, clinics and medical equipment companies.
Obama has REPEATEDLY called for government-operated single-payer care, which you KNOW is what people mean by "socialized medicine." YOU LIE by disclaiming this.
*sigh* See above