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After reading all the above posts, I cannot help it but wondering what they say in a "harley" forum about us ducatisti. I personally don't like Harleys worth a damn but In my opinion the two cannot even be compared. Not quite...but it is almost like comparing a Desmosedici with a 1098R. I have to " + 1 " on Johnny's post above about the "chicks" comment though.