FST community we need a Recruiters suf-forum

Yes, do this. FST is an open discussion board. It is more about letting people discuss whatever they want, where other forums like TPS and more about getting their members invites and pleasing tracker staff. They would censor or delete most things that tracker staff complain about, because discussion is secondary to invites.

FST isn't as invite-centered as other sites, and it holds that niche. It would be very stupid on our part to lose this advantage and become one and the same with the dozens of other invite-moving clones.



Not true. We are talking about File Saring Discussions and Support section. FST will be FST forever, only discussing about one easy move: Trade section off and getting a Recruiters zone. It
 
Easily. I only give invites out to one site at TPS, since I'm not in a position where I'll get in trouble for inviting some troublemakers ;)

I'd never openly offer invites to other sites there, even where I have unlimited invites. I view them the exact same way. A person can make a request and I'll take into consideration the person, not just the fact that they have buffers and (alleged) e-peen tracker screenshots (easily forged).

I give out invites to close friends in real life that can wrap their heads around private torrenting, and e-friends I've made at various torrent sites. That's about it.

It was under the assumption that we'd have to make more than just that one compromise to get alot of tracker staff interested.
You probably would starting with IP disclosures. And even that probably wouldn't satisfy many folks.

I don't see the point really anyway. Traders are idiots as far as I'm concerned, but if you somehow managed to kick them off here, they'll just find another forum that'll accept them. It's not like FST is the only place it happens.
 
Who would wanna recruit people from here anyways...

Well, I just want to say that with that statement, you imply you are not worth inviting to any trackers. Not everyone here is a trolling, trading, dumbass buttlicker, and to believe such is just daft imo. There are awesome members of quite a few great trackers at FST, and to ignore this place in it's entirety is, while appealing, not necessarily in the interests of any site that is not working on the belief that they have enough members already.

Yes it's harder to trust people here, but not impossible, and sometimes it's not even terribly difficult at that as some folks do not take on a different persona here than they do elsewhere or even in rl.
 
Some invite forums work by donations,rep points, whoever gives out the most invites, does tracker reviews(which is forbidden here),donates a lot of money to get special privileges. Rep points are used to climb the ranks on that forum. Would not want FST to turn into that. I am not the type to hand out invites just to get rep or become a certain rank. If a tracker wanted to recruit members then they could PM possible candidates that they think would be a good addition to their tracker and ask them if they want to join as said above.

Well said, pone. Not many here would want FST to turn into a TPS.
 
Yes, do this. FST is an open discussion board. It is more about letting people discuss whatever they want, where other forums like TPS and more about getting their members invites and pleasing tracker staff. They would censor or delete most things that tracker staff complain about, because discussion is secondary to invites.

FST isn't as invite-centered as other sites, and it holds that niche. It would be very stupid on our part to lose this advantage and become one and the same with the dozens of other invite-moving clones.

Exactly. I would never wish to have that here, even if staff were completely in agreement with how this site works, and they were all willing to give out invites like candy. Once we allow that, this site turns into an invite community. People tread carefully, watch what they post, and make sure never to post anything negative about the site. I came here for supporting and opposing views, not just supporting. Once "community reps" come here, the integrity of the site is destroyed. Everyone tries to suck up to other people and the real "discussions" that occur would become only a memory.
 
Not really, your posts are a nice laugh though. Your idea goes against that which is FST. And as far as your main point of the thread, it's dead.:unsure:

nice laugh? idea against that which is FST? your main point of the thread it's dead?

sure you didn't read this topic at all, so you have your miserable opinion...
give me a break.


and of course you are a trader. I could imagine that before reading one of your last posts.
 
Recruiters could offering membership in their trackers, such thing would develop our community to a next level.

what's your opinion about that?

let's say, we have some members here in FST that are spread around tracker communities, so I guess this idea could come true.



It's time to improve our community!

How would it differ from the Giveaways section? :huh:
 
Once "community reps" come here, the integrity of the site is destroyed. Everyone tries to suck up to other people and the real "discussions" that occur would become only a memory.

I can speak from experience and say this isn't necessarily true. I've been a rep for PtN for a while now here, and I get as much shit here as I do roses. I can also say that I have never really felt "sucked up" to here, even when we had a brief excursion of a recruiting thread. I'd also like to think I've at least had some sort of positive impact on discussions here, as well as several other staffers that post here frequently, barring someone trolling them.

The motivation to try for that positive impact is why I continue to post here. As far as the OP is concerned, the thought is just impractical for many of the reasons stated previously in this thread already.

1.Trading occurs here, and that is anathema to 99% of trackers.

2. While still being a fairly all encompassing forum for the BT community, it is not beholden to the trackers that are the end goal and will not be to hear staff say it. That's probably for the best tbh, as I have said in the past criticism is always capable of being a tool for improvement of all sites, no matter the tone it's stated with. You don't have to answer a post to gain from it ;) That criticism won't occur at most forums dedicated solely to BT, either because of fear or because staff of those forums are more beholden to the trackers they work with and take measures to prevent any tracker they are friends with from appearing less than stellar.

3.As gets mentioned quite often, this board is not just about BT, and to think that the staff here should invest all their time and effort into this one section of the board is a bit ego maniacal.

As a point of fact, I personally have invited quite a few members of FST to PtN over the course of being a rep here, and the majority are invited behind the scenes and without sycophantic suckuppery. That they are members here should not impact how they are viewed by the sites they are interested in barring that oh so lovely trade section that we all know and love with all our hearts:rolleyes: It'd be like saying "Oh my gawd, he's from Waco Texas so he MUST be insane!!!!" It just doesn't follow imo.
 
OP, did you do a search about removing the trade section before you actually posted the idea? If you did, you might have noticed a multi page thread about it...

And if I remember correctly there have been a few recruitment threads by staffers here in the past so don't say it can't happen. How did the people invited do at tracker is a whole different question alltogether.
 
You probably would starting with IP disclosures. And even that probably wouldn't satisfy many folks.

I don't see the point really anyway. Traders are idiots as far as I'm concerned, but if you somehow managed to kick them off here, they'll just find another forum that'll accept them. It's not like FST is the only place it happens.

Exactly my point. Go elsewhere if you want a quick invite fix. Use FST if you like discussing and then you'll probably get everywhere you want. The latter just takes more time, and is not an option for your average bittard.
 
Community reps openly advertise that their high ranked members of the tracker, and are open about the fact that they are actively recruiting. You are doing neither. An average member probably wouldn't realize you're staff at PTN, and you aren't recruiting. Hence, no ass kissing for you :). You could probably easily change that though if you included some nice info in your sig.
 
:rolleyes:
Not really, your posts are a nice laugh though. Your idea goes against that which is FST. And as far as your main point of the thread, it's dead.:unsure:

nice laugh? idea against that which is FST? your main point of the thread it's dead?

sure you didn't read this topic at all, so you have your miserable opinion...
give me a break.


and of course you are a trader. I could imagine that before reading one of your last posts.
Why would a trader's opinion be less valuable than any random member from this forum?

There isn't much to add to what has been said previously here.

I would just add the part where a place like FST needs to exist, in its actual philosophy, flawed or not. whether some people at some places dislike it, it obviously would always have to happen, as trading and giveaways are allowed here. Whatman explained it very well at another thread recently.

Any people can come here, at any given time, and recruit a member to his site. At every site I'm at actually, and i entered via invitation, was from people at FST. And there was never any official recruiters here.
Having explicit recruiters here would only make members have biased opinions on any given subject, driven to please potential recruiters. And all intellectual discussions wouldn't take place. Just visit TPS, to have an idea about what I'm talking.
The ratio of douchebaggery there has climbed to extremely high levels, beating FST's golden times. This place has evolved a lot since those days, as now I can't think of a harder place to get your request fulfilled, unless you're quite a good fellow. Scrutiny is thorough, by other members, a thing you can't see anywhere else. There, you can only post to say good things and kisses + hugs. Here, if you try to request something with a second intention, you're fucked.

I'll give you a practical example: do you see any other place where a place like FSC is requested so often? no. Why? Because people know their dudes come here more often than not, and actively scourge this place for useful additions. Now imagine how chaotic it would be if there was any official recruiter here. God help them! :ermm:
As for requests, you can see something like 1% being fulfilled (since I'm here, going to 3 years, I can only remember 2). This means that FST's inherent mechanic does work somehow, as many people here get recruited, and it's not via requests. Take this as a good example how things work positively both ways.

Oh, and for those who still didn't get it, filesharing is much more than actively hunting for invites.
 
The topic is about improve the community, with getting closer staff members.

Capitulating to someones demands doesn't make you closer to them it makes you their servant.

Btw I'm recruiting any women who are looking for a good time.
Although I'm not strictly staff anyplace else there is a staff involved.:naughty:
 
when I say getting closer to staff members, I mean, getting the communities of those trackers in cooperation with FST.
We can't see all this thing related to invites.

Example: someone searches for a rare musical release, doesn't find it in public trackers. Could try here, and trackers communities would tell if they got that one. It will save time to searchers.

giving into staffers' whims in order to get closer to them = community improvement ?
just lol.


forget the staff and focus on members. do you doubt members around the p2p communities can improve any project?
 
I do very much enjoy the fact that this is an open forum where there's no (or not much) incentive to suck up to people and good honest interesting discussions can take place - without people partaking in them in order to fulfill an agenda.

I'm of the philosophy that it's better to take the good despite the bad, rather than nothing at all. This place can be *very* useful at times, I like its feel and the dynamic despite its flaws.
 
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