Environment for a new puppy?

Brink

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We are welcome a male, golden retriever puppy into our household!

Our mud room is cordoned off the rest of the house with baby gates. Inside this area, there is a set of stairs leading the basement. The basement is very large and unfinished (with painted concrete floors). The room seems perfect to keep the puppy's crate and feeding/other supplies in, especially since there are two doors that lead the backyard.

However, from things I've read, it says your puppy should be in a crate near other humans. However sound travels in our house VERY easily and we have some light sleepers, thus we thought if there was any whining or barking the basement would be a good idea.

Also puppies shouldn't climb stairs, should they? Is it smart to have his crate in the basement and the area in the house he is allowed in upstairs? He will probably spend a lot of time in the mud-room since its next to kitchen/near others.

Help please!
 
Puppies can hurt their paws climbing stairrs and put the crate wherever the puppy feels most comfortable at. We put our puppy in the laundry room to sleep at night, but she usually naps and plays in the kitchen were we are all around. Good luck:)
 
Stairs are indeed bad for puppies and dogs. While they are first little, I crate my puppies and I keep the crate by the bed with a night light on so the puppy can see me if it wakes up and be reassured it is not abandoned. I also play a cd or radio until the puppy falls asleep. I only use the crate for potty training and the puppy only sleeps by the bed while I am potty training. When I am done potty training the puppy, I break down the crate and store it, and the puppy can sleep anywhere it wants to. I almost think I would use the bell method, and sleep down in the basement with the puppy until it is potty trained, I guess you will have to figure out what works best. I use a crate* to potty train with, but only for potty training and then I break it down and store it. I put blankets and a small food and water dish in the crate. Dogs don't potty where they eat and sleep. When they are first little, I only expect them to hold their potty for 4 hours, and then 6 hours, then 8 hours and so on. So when they are first little, I set a timer or alarm clock to wake myself up at night to take them *out. I only allow my puppy in the bedroom* or the living room, only one room at a time. They have to graduate to more space. If I allow them to have full run of the house, it will overwhelm them. I take them out the same door each time. I tie a dinner bell to the door handle. Do not use a jingle bell as they could get their toe caught in it. So when they are little, I ring the bell for them, and then open the door to go *outside to potty. When they get bigger, I take their paw and whack the bell and open the door to go potty. Eventually getting to the place where the puppy will ring the bell and let me know when they need to go potty. Dogs want to please you, so it is your job to let them know what behaviors please you and what doesn't. So when my puppy goes potty, I give her a treat*, and clap, and make a fuss and praise her. So she learns that going potty outside makes me happy. If she has an accident, make a disgust sound like “tsst” and take her out right away. I never yell* or spank* my puppies. Take them out when they first wake up, after they eat or drink, before nap, finish romping, when their activities change, or when they are sniffing around. Some puppies go pee right away, but may not go poop until 10 minutes later, so wait for the poop. I have a little play time here, because sometimes I think they are done, and they are not. Puppies train at their own pace. While I may have a puppy that hasn't had an accident in several weeks, I don't let my guard down. I don't expect my puppies to be "fully potty trained" until one-year-old. If they have a setback, shake it off, and start over. I only have my puppies in the crate when I am not watching them. When I am sleeping, cooking, ironing, doing chores, basically when I am not watching her. All other times, she is out of the crate practicing being a "big girl." This is the time I train her how to behave in the house. So we are practicing "no barking", 'no biting", "no jumping", and "don't eat the furniture." I also have to practice "playing inside" so she doesn't knock over things. You must keep the puppy in sight when they are little because they don’t know the difference between newspaper and carpet, and you don’t want them sneaking off and getting into trouble. Some puppies can sleep through the night around 3-months-old, but their bladder is grown around 6-months-old.

REVISIONS:
*I use a CRATE to train with. It is the method I prefer, compared to other methods I have tried. I noticed that if they are in the crate, while I am doing chores, they are o.k., because the crate allows them to see me and be re-assured. The crate can also be a comfort when stored in the basement for dogs who live in areas where thunderstorms and tornados are an issue. . However, use the method that works best for you.....a laundry basket, a cardboard box, a woof-woof house, x-pen, child gates, whatever works for you.
*OUTSIDE, pee pad, litter box, whichever method you are using. When the puppy is first little, keep the pee pad, litter box near the food and water dish, so the puppy can eat and drink, and then go potty. You can move it away as they get older. The pee pad has a scent that smells and initiates potty. Sometimes a pee pad makes a sound that scares some puppies, so you might want to use a litter box if that happens. The pee pad allows a puppy to walk around, but a litter box keeps the puppy in one place.
*BEDROOMS, I use the bedroom and living room for training, because it works for me. Choose rooms that work for you, but watch for rooms that are damp, or drafty. While my puppies sleep in the bedroom during training, once they are trained, I let them sleep where they want to. They don't have to sleep in the bedroom forever.
*TREATS. While I use treats for training, you don't have to. I like Charlee Bears for training (a little cracker for a little mouth,) I use them for training, but once they are trained, I cut back on them.
*SOME PUPPIES will go potty in the same spot each time. Some puppies have to be told to go potty. A command like "go out" for pee, or "go finish" for poop, might work for you, keep saying “go finish” until the puppy poops. This is a good thing to train if you travel with your dogs. By using commands, the puppy won't get confused when you are visiting someone, on vacation with you, or when you get to a new home. The command will tell them what you want them to do in an unfamiliar place. You might also want to use a leash method, so the puppy doesn’t sneak off, or for strange places.
*YELLING. It is not a good idea to "yell" or "spank" your puppy and then take them outside when they have an accident. They may get confused and think that going outside is punishment. While you want to correct them, if you are extreme, they may not want to go outside again. Shake it off, and resume your schedule. You have to keep it real. Puppies train at their own pace, but a puppy can only hold their potty for a few hours. A guide would be 1 hour for each month of age, plus 1 hour, so a three-month-old puppy should only be expected to hold their potty for 4 hours at most.
SOURCE: These tips, tricks, and ideas were contributed from many brilliant minds. Thanks for your help!
 
There are both ups and downs to this like there would be with anything else. The area sounds like a great place - it's great space for the male golden retriever. When fully grown, he WILL be big and he needs the kind of space you are providing.
Yes, it IS true that any puppy or dog should have their crate or bed or whatever they're using near humans. You said that sound travels through your house. Well yes, that may wake up your light sleepers, but you could train your dog in a few weeks or less (I know with my puppy it was one week, so I can relate to this) But if the puppy is in another room where he can't be near living breathing humans, it is possible that he could be affected.
Puppies should never, never, never be near the stairs. If left alone for a few minutes, he could get hurt. Not until he is older (or supervised as a puppy) should he be climbing any stairs.
I hope I helped and goodluck with your new puppy! He sounds like a keeper. :)
- Jackie
 
It's always best to keep the puppy near people. If you don't he won't be as socialize as he needs to be and that could cause problems later. Crate training is good for night time though so I have no concerns with keeping him in the basement only at night. But he should be allowed to explore his surroundings. Otherwise he could become very shy and nervous around people. Hope this helps.
 
Since he's just a puppy, you should keep him on the ground floor for a few months. Then, after he grows a little, you can move him into the basement. Still, those first few weeks in the basement might be tough on him, so listen at night and try to keep him happy.
 
Your puppy will be extremely sad and anxious to be alone in the basement. Goldens need to be with humans. They are "shadow" dogs and will suffer mentally from solitary confinement. I think that area is fine when no one is home & he needs to be kenneled; but not a good idea when you are home. Dogs need to be with the family that adopted them. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your intention with this room.
 
Your puppy will be extremely sad and anxious to be alone in the basement. Goldens need to be with humans. They are "shadow" dogs and will suffer mentally from solitary confinement. I think that area is fine when no one is home & he needs to be kenneled; but not a good idea when you are home. Dogs need to be with the family that adopted them. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your intention with this room.
 
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