E50 Memory Problem

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YaRi

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Hi. I have a E-50 and this memory problem thing is really pissing me off. It keeps saying 'Memory full. Close some applications and try again'. I have already tried doing a hard reset to the phone and this problem still appears!

Any one know what could be the cause of this problem?

Thank you.
 
What are you trying to run? Are you closing your apps after using them?

If you are trying to run to many things at once, you are going to get that error. No amount of hard resetting or anything else is going to change that.

-olly
 
I get it as a random error on my E50, too. Even when I'm running nothing in the background and just go to launch another app. Very annoying, but usually a second try opens the app with no problems at all.

Hopefully a firmware update helps. What is the latest that the E50 should be running now anyway?
 
Someone else mentioned this, but also indicated they had a tons of SMS's on the phone. Any chance you have a ton as well?

(not that it'll fix anything, but maybe it's a clue...)
 
Yeah -- my guess is that if it's SMS related, it's some sort of bug in one thing that's triggering a Memory Full error; basically, an erroneous error message of some sort. I personally never had this problem, but I kept the SMS's down to 20 or so.

Maybe the firmware keeps like an array of pointers open to all your SMS's (maybe if it's on Active Standy as your mailbox?), and if that array gets way too large it eats runtime memory, causing a random Memory Full. (random wild a** guess )
 
Yeah that was me that mentioned that there was a lot of SMS. But then I started to delete my SMS and also save the SMS on the phone instead of the SD card, and the problem went away, so I thought. But just now this morning I got five SMS and when I tried to reply to the first one the error came up again. It's rather annoying to have to turn off and on the phone again.
 
Awful. Let's say it's a bug and think of workarounds -- have you tried making subfolders and moving SMSs (SMSii?) out of Inbox/Sent and into, I dunno, "Archive" or something? Maybe it's only related to having them in the Inbox.

At work here I run the IMAP server and when users have more than 1000 messages in the Sent (I have one guy with 30,000. *sigh*) it starts to kill the server CPU everytime they send a new email and IMAPd has to enumerate their Sent folder to add a new one.

The point being I can see how having a huge Inbox of SMS would exceed the programming design of the S60 team... definitely worthy of a Bug Report to Nokia if you can reproduce it reliably. Some day we'll see an E50 update, some day...
 
Not strange since internal memory is completely different from random access memory, or RAM.

If you use a third party application such as Tasky (free) or Handy TaskMan (not free), then you can accurately evaluate how much available RAM your phone currently has and which applications are using it. I'm not familiar with the E50, but this isn't new to 3rd Edition. The web browser is perhaps the most RAM-intensive application ever put on a s60 Nokia.

Use either of the above applications to determine what applications may still be running if you failed to close them. On the N73 in particular, some default applications are left open intentionally WITHOUT appearing in the default task manager (holding the menu button) so that they open faster when accessed.

As far as text messages go, the only reason this would have an impact on RAM is if the application itself became dramatically larger to run due to an increased size. Keep in mind, we're talking about two different types of file size that influence two types of memory. The disc size of the application is affected by the amount of messages in it, thus the RAM is affected because it will take more RAM to open a larger application.

Does this make sense?

The best you can do is keep on top of which applications are running, keep them closed, and reboot at least everyday. Rebooting clears all RAM and brings it back up to where it should be.
 
Well I don't use the browser because I don't have internet.
Never really tried moving the SMS to different folders because I just reply to friends and I delete them eventually. I would understand if I had a lot and the memory problem occurs, which it does, but I'm more mad now since I started deleting my messages when it hits about 20 ~ 30 (and sometimes even less than that) and this still happens. The thing is that I cannot keep making it happen, so I don't know how to tell Nokia about it.

Oh yeah could you please give me the link for the two programs that you mentioned. Is one okay or do I need to run both?
 
Tasky is in the freeware thread and Handy TaskMan is availably on my-symbian.com. I'll do the running for you. You only need one, but Handy TaskMan works better with a bit more functionality, for the money.

Handy TaskMan
http://my-symbian.com/s60v3/software/applications.php?fldAuto=132&faq=1

Tasky
http://www.symbian-freeware.com/download-tasky.html
 
Haha I think I'll just use Tasky. I'm currently at work so when I get home I'll install it and then post of what Tasky is showing that's running on my phone. Also I forgot to mention that when the error occurs, all the icons looks like a jigsaw puzzle piece.
 
Hi. I just installed Tasky on my phone and it says Free: 11188KB. And there is a bunch of other stuff. How do I know if it is using too much?
 
That's why Tasky doesn't work very well; it's hard to find the normal applications through all the processes. Give the trial of Handy Taskman a shot and you'll get a better feel for how it's supposed to work.

It sounds like you have a defective unit based on the icon problem you described. I've never heard of anything like that before.
 
Running out of RAM? All I do is SMS and talk on the phone. I hardly use any Java applications and the icon problem only occurs when the memory error comes up.
 
IMO the problem is with the way the firmware handles the memory card. Periodically open the memory card. Options>Remove memory card>ok. Do not actually remove the memory card. This 'refreshes' something and after this, my apps/themes run from the memory card without the 'memory full' error.
 
Hm, okay but after doing that will I still be able to access my memory card? My memory card only has a couple of pictures and a couple of songs on it.
 
Okay disregard the last question. But yeah when using 'Tasky' I clicked on Options>Show>RAM, there's still a lot of things there. Well there's a lot of things in general but it says on the top, 'Free: 10676KB'. Does that mean how much free RAM I have left on the phone?
 
Yup, that's your free operational RAM (as opposed to storage memory); it's very much like your desktop, you have phone memory ("hard drive") and operational memory ("ram"). 10meg for the E50 seems appropriate; mine has like 12-14meg free after a fresh reboot and nothing running.
 
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