Does our lack of data on ocean temperatures have imlications for modelling climate

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Meadow F

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change? Without proper data on ocean temperature there will be big holes in the ability to model climate change effectively - do you think this is a problem?
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Modeling very simple situations with accurately quantified data will yield models that diverge quickly enough.

Modeling complex systems with many loosely quantified parameters is an exercise in the shortcomings of computer modeling. Simply moving data within reasonable margins of error will give tremendously different results.

The oceans are the drivers of climate, to be sure, but the oceans are affected from below by geothermal phenomena that we may not even know about and they are affected from above by atmospheric phenomena that we barely understand.

A model based on simple trends is far more accurate than ANY of the climate models have ever been.

I'll produce a link to that soon.
 
What makes you think we have a lack of ocean temperature data? We have lots of data on sea surface temperatures and ocean heat content. Are you referring to deep oceans or something?
 
Of course it is. Oceans are the great conveyor belt redistributing heat and have obvious effects on climate. Geothermal energies are small potatoes in any climate calculations but ocean temperatures are vital. It is the epitome of garbage in, garbage out when models use incomplete or inaccurate data.
 
Of course.

But the scientists know everything. People are the only possible cause of the earth warming a half a degree in the last 100 years, and of course, that will result in horrific consequences.
 
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