Does anyone find it ironic that John K?...

I find John K one cuck who flew over the nest. He's a lazy-hipocrite. He really loaths every other animation other than his own. So I wouldnt doubt him to critique work similar to his.
 
There should really just be one "React to Crap John K Says" thread.

Ideally it would also be on his Web site where he could see it, not here. :)
 
Or the almighty Lord Clampett.

Fun Fact: Chuck Jones and Mel Blanc disliked Bob Clampett, saying he was an "Egotist who took other people's ideas and would throw tyrants when things didn't goes his way."
Gee, who does that sound like?...
 
Lol didn't Chuck Jones give virtually no credit to Clampett for Charlie Dog? In fact, his first cartoon featuring him was extremely similar to the original b/w Clampett short.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the true reason why he idolize him.

True cartoonists are buttholes.

And now, I have this urge to punch Andrew Dickman in the crap factory.
 
Well, there is the headquarters of the heroes on The Fipping Friends, RIPCOT, which is the Really Impressive Prototype City Of (Next) Tuesday, which is a reference to EPCOT, Walt Disney's Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow. Ren's voice is modeled after actor Peter Lorre while Stimpy's is modeled after Larry Fine of the Three Stooges. Bat-Bat on Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures was an homage to Batman. There are numerous references to actor and man's man Kirk Douglas in many of his cartoons, especially Ren and Stimpy and The Ripping Friends.

One R&S short was a remake/homage of the Yogi Bear short "Pie Pirates" with the title characters stealing hog jowls instead of pies. The Untamed World episodes parodied 60s/70s-era nature shows, particularly Wild Kingdom. Powdered Toast Man is a parody of those bombastic Hanna-Barbera super heroes of the 1960s that yell out their name when they arrive, particularly Space Ghost (Gary Owens played both). The outfit Ren wears in "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" is very similar to Mickey Mouse's trademark attire. There are numerous 1950s/1960s homages to advertising jingles (Log's jingle is very similar to Slinky's) and television (Commander Hoek is a parody of those space operas that dominated the TV-scape back then).

So, yeah, pop culture references existed in the shows and shorts of John K. It may not be CURRENT pop culture, but it is pop culture nonetheless.
 
Dreamworks isn't John K. Dreamworks is....wow, what an awful thing this is to say, but it's true.....more sophisticated than John K.

Even Shark Tale is more witty than the Heartaches cartoon he's been storyboarding (just for fun) and displaying one scene at a time....it's all gross-out gags. A pack of dogs collectively sniff another dog's butt over and over. Roxy eats a cockroach, who pleads for his life before she chomps him in half.

His poses are great, but his sense of humor is (and always will be) very very juvenile.
 
If you even seen a ren and stimpy cartoon, you cant even compare something good to something bad from dreamworks with Ren and Stimpy.

He did say a few good things about some stuff here and there, he didnt like cloudy with a chance of meatballs but he did say a few good things about it. And I remember reading an interview that he enjoyed the animation on the Powerpuff girls.

Edit: Found the interview, http://www.avclub.com/articles/john-kricfalusi,13702/
 
Some of his rants are a bit similar to John K. He also tends to hate new generation fiction(it's not just animation. Like John K, he also wants animation to be more, "cartoony."

Also, he depises Jigglypuff and would like nothing better than to have her(the SSB Trophy Figure) erased for good. The thing is, he shows no good reason for his hatred.

He also loathes Bowser Jr. for the obvious reasons(The Koopalings), and like Jiggs, he wants him erased.

Of course, if nostalgia Koopaling freaks look deeply into the characters they idolized, they would figure it out that the KoKuupa are no different nor better than Koopa Jr.
 
Interesting. I though he loathed that type of semi-abstract and flat-looking art style that show had. At least that's the impression I got after finding out he hated cartoons like Samurai Jack and Total Drama Island.
 
That's not the proper definition of irony, you're looking for "hypocritical," but you would still be wrong. I don't agree with John's attitude, but Dreamworks films are completely different from his stuff, and it isn't even about their "humor"...John has consistently said that the ART is all he judges a cartoon by. He's more or less said that story and writing are secondary to the visuals.
 
Which wouldn't be that objectionable except that John seems to believe that every cartoon should be like a Bob Clampett cartoon or early Hanna-Barbera cartoons, which is just as biased and absurd as hardcore fans of dark, action based cartoons and action anime who think every cartoon should be like Generator Rex or Full Metal Alchemist. It's one thing to like a certain style, and another to instantly turn one's nose up at any cartoon which doesn't fit those parameters.

Personally, I refuse to put any weight to anything John Kricfalusi has to say until the man actually produces another cartoon instead of just sitting on his easy chair and complaining about all the people in the industry who are actually producing things, meeting deadlines and enjoying success with their ideas. At this point all of his rants just come off like sour grapes.

And yeah, the initial argument of this post is flawed because the humor in Dreamworks' films is nothing like that of John K's. John K. isn't the first or only person to ever make pop-culture references, and no Dreamworks movie has ever employed gross-out or shock humor they way that Kricfalusi has.
 
I don't have much sympathy for John K.

The guy complains, complains, and complains about how animation is awful these days yet he isn't doing anything new.

He's had time and time again to prove himself and he's failed by refusing to meet deadlines and making awful cartoons.

Why does he have such love for Yogi Bear and The Flintstones yet he bashes modern flat UPA style animation>
 
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