Do you know your Constitution? Ron Paul is saying the health care debate would

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fineDayguy

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be over if we followed ...? the Constitution and stopped stealing from some people to pay for the supposed rights of other people. What do you think? Is health care a right that everyone should have or should you have to pay for it like you do everything else? If it is a right where is it in the Constitution? Did the founders just forget to include it?

Here is the quote from Ron Paul.
"Free people should be left alone to follow their conscience and determine their own lifestyle as long as they do not interfere with other people doing the same. If morality is dictated by government, morality will change with every election. Even if you agree with the morality of the current politicians and think their ideas should be advanced, someday different people will inherit that power and use it for their own agendas. The wisdom of the constitution is that it keeps government out of these issues altogether.

Many say we must reform health care and treat it as a right, because that is the moral thing to do. Poor people should not go without health care in a just society. But too many forget the immorality of stealing from others in order to make this so. They also forget the morality and compassion that naturally exists in communities when government is not fomenting class warfare with wealth redistribution programs."
 
The government would not be involved in health care because it is a private enterprise. Government would allow people to run health care as a private business without all the regulations. Patients would be able to pick natural healing or whatever. I heard one surgeon who teaches at medical school saying he has interns considering dropping out because they would no longer the struggle the medical school will be worthwhile after they graduate. Obama was complaining about how rich they. I guess med students do not like being treated like McDs' employees.
 
I don't give credence to a person who has no legal background on constitutional issues. The constitution need not spell out every right we have. If that were the case we wouldn't have half the government programs and entities that we have.
 
All Liberals don't want us looking at the Constitution. (they'd probably call us racists) Because it would put their challenges to rest on us becoming a Socialist Nation.
 
like he said the constitution is a document written in the 1700's to regulate government. if they had access to the sophisticated means we have today don't you think they would want all citizens healthy.
 
What you and Dr. Paul seem to forget is, liberals don't really care what you think. They are elite, and as such, they are much more capable of deciding how to spend your money for you.
 
The Constitution does not say that Americans have a right to health care. But nor does it say that health insurance companies have a right to exist. At the time the Constitution was written, medicine was a trade, like any other, and people would pay the doctor with food or services. There was no precedent for what health insurance companies are doing with the collaboration of the government. âˆ*°)
 
You mean the Constitution that, when it was written, said women had no right to vote and Africans were 3/5 of a human being? You want to go back to that system? Or do times change?
 
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
 
Ok, the Constitution and the things that follow are what you CAN'T do. No monarchy, taxation without representation, and so on.

And follow my own conscience? That's anarchy! My conscience is to severely beat anyone who disagrees with me and I don't like! Why can't I do that, huh? Oh, because it's not nice? Moral? No, because its impairing your rights. And since it's illegal too, so yes you can legalize morality. Murder, death sentence, it's written all over the place!

Drugs are illegal, and why? Morals. Not health or taxes. Smoking and drinking are legal. No one pays the dreaded "flower garden tax." There's no other purpose for why.

Free people should do what they want freely, but a lot of people can't. Take homeless for example. Who'd you hire, the bearded smelly guy smelling of piss and carrying everything he owns with him, or the clean shaven college grad who smells of cologne?

Some can. Others can't.

And these dick holders here don't get it. Hell, why don't you go to Iraq instead of me? Let me think instead of you, but instead I'm gonna risk my life to grant you the right to think, only for you to fail? Guess what? Money isn't something everyone has!

Ron "The Rich Guy" Paul has money for this, he can pay himself. I can't. I know others who can't. Choices are great, but it sucks when option A is steal and option B is beg and get spit on, C involves prostitution while D is crawl through dumpsters. E is hide from the world with substance abuse.

Call me crazy, but homeless people can't afford food, so they can't get health care since they don't have the money? There's a thing called compassion most of you fail to get.

The rest of you here can choke on the food you buy. Even now I still struggle, do I buy food or gas? Pack of cigs or a lighter? Go to school and learn something (thank the GI Bill and TA with that one)

And wealth redistribution? Oh, you mean like how the top 10% of highest gross incomes generate, what was that? 50% of our nations income? I understand, taxes suck. Morality sounds great at church. But when the best thing you ate all week is frozen burger patties found behind McDonald's, you don't have these wonderful "free choice to follow our conscience."

*Edit: For the rest of the stupid people, this is about health care, where the hell is liberal coming from? And no the constitution didn't say women can't vote and blacks don't count, MORON. It's called amendments. And they say I'm stupid and uneducated.

Joey M has half a picture. It's not limited to liberals. It's the lawmakers, none of which have ever struggled before in their life. Lawgirl makes a very valid point too.
 
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