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Denon,

How are you doing this evening? I wish I had more advice to give re: tapering, but, I came off cold turkey (sure wish I had known more about detoxing). Just wanted to lend an ear or a shoulder.
 
I'm doing great today since I modified my tapering plan and I am taking 2 doses a day instead of the one. Today I didn't take my first dose until after noon and I'll see how far I can go before taking the 2nd tonight. I have an appt with my doctor on Wednesday to discuss a plan of action. I'll see what he recommenRAB.

I tried cold turkey and the withdrawals were too much to bear and I only got 50 hours before I broke. Its amazing that I can go from feeling this good to completely miserable and in agony in just a few hours. I just keep trying to push through it. Its nothing that I've ever experienced before.

Thanks for your support!!
 
Denon:

You might want to consider going to an NA meeting. Just to check it out. There you will also learn about the disease. Is there one in your area?

Lori
 
Denon

Keep up the good work, I am proud of you.

Watch if you go into a facility and if they want you to go on "Suboxone". Read the posts here first. Type in Suboxone on the box and the top of these boarRAB. Be prepared first.

Take care and I am thinking about you. Our stories are so similar and I wasn't prepared when I checked myself into detox!!!!

I am here if you need to ask any questions. You are doing a great job and I know your wife is soooo proud of you.

Lyn
 
I am so disappointed right now I can't even see straight! I missed my goal - No! I blew my goal up and missed it by 6-1/2 hours. I didn't even make 24 hours since I took my last pill. Tapering down went in the wrong direction today. The withdrawals were more intense tonight and I broke at 3AM and took the Percocet earlier than I wanted to. My shaking has stopped and I'm exhausted. It's 5 AM and I'm going to go to bed and get some sleep. I feel as if I let the group down.
 
Thanks logalind - I have considered that and I probably will check it out. I think the more support I can get and the more people I can ask questions to, the better for me. I am STILL naive about oxycodone and all of its effects on the body. I have an appt with my doctor tomorrow to discuss my detox treatment. I'll let him know all of the options that I have found out in my research and add to my knowledge with his suggestions. Part of me just wants to check into the in-patient facility and have them sedate me and go cold turkey, part of me wants to intensify the tapering process to get off as soon as possible, part of me want to extend the tapering off period as long as possible, and part of me wants to say just go back to where I was. There's two withdrawals that i have to fight: the physical, which intensifies the mental.

Last night I was up all night long and went to bet at 5:30 this morning and got up today at 2:30. I just came back from a walk around the block with my wife and dog and I'm going to head out for another 1+ mile walk right after this post. I'm feeling good today and I have yet to take my tapering dose yet.

Mentally I am very weak right now. I came soooo close to relapsing last night, but didn't. It's Day 5 since I started my detox and Day 2 on my new twice-a-day tapered dosing. I'm going to push to see how far I can today get before I need to take my first dose of the day.

Thanks for you support!
 
Hi Denon

Friend, no one is disappointed in you here except you. Smiles. As we make our way off of an opiate, there are no two days that are exactly the same. We set out with a basic plan, but often it must be tweeked in order to keep making progress. Progress... that is always the goal. Progress. The closer we are to the final doses, the harder it becomes.

Personally, I think you are tormenting yourself a bit with the way you are tapering. Rather than trying to stretch your dose to the maximum nuraber of hours ( which is sending you into full withdrawal each time, perhaps you might make the stretch shorter and the dose smaller. It probably will mean crushing a pill into crurabs and measuring the dose from that. As I neared the end of the taper from Oxycodone, I began merging 3 doses a day into two and then one. Since you are already at one dose, I would suggest to start making that dose smaller and smaller. Rather than waiting until you are beyond control with symptoms, start waiting as long into the day as possible and then taking it. Stay put until you level out a bit.. a few days. Then stratch an hour. Keep at it.. cutting really slowly, strretching a bit, leveling out. For me, I nnever let that last dose happen after early evening to help my body start learning to fall asleep on its own again.

In tapering, we always get antsy at the end. There is a great tendency to want to jump, rather than walk, off at the end. It is not withour symptoms, but slow and easy keeps the symptoms more possible to endure. It also gives the brain and body time to adjust gradually to having less drug and producing more of its own chemicals.

I hope you have gotten some rest. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, Friend.... it will start shining brighter for you soon.

With all hope
reach
 
Yesterday and today have been the best so far. I'm full of energy and I have a clear mind. Writing that little story, "Hello, my name is Oxy" helped clear my mind yesterday also. Writing and, of course, walking are my therapy.

Went to the doctor today and he thinks since I detoxed on my own so fast (from 60 mg Oxy to 10 mg and now 5 mg) that I can finish the job in two weeks. He prescribed 2.5 mg Percs for me to start splitting and tapering faster. Since I started the two doses of 2.5 mg a day, I have not had any withdrawals. I took my 2nd dose last night at 3:30 AM for yesterday and I have not had my 1st dose today. I'll see how far I can go before I start the withdrawals. My doctor is soooo good. He's very conservative and when I complained about not sleeping, he told me if I'm awake at 4:30 AM, then go for a walk and exercise, instead of writing a script to make me sleep. He said then I'll be tired when 10 PM rolls around. He actually made me feel proud that I've done so well on my own and he has patients that just refuse to detox.

Anyway... If the CarRAB win on Sunday, I just may have to go cold turkey to celebrate!!!
 
Thanks for the encouraging worRAB. I got 5-1/2 hours sleep this morning and I'm feeling better. I came to the same conclusion laying in bed this morning that instead of taking one dose and pushing for a time goal, to split the dose so that I take it twice a day. I'm going to try that starting today.

Since I have never been through this before I don't know what to expect. I'm learning each day and I need to realize not to expect things to go the way "I" want them to go, but I have to see how my body is going to react to the decreased drug and work around that.

Starting another day...
 
Hi Denon

Great job on doing so well! Good news for sure.

Denon, just wanted to share something with you concerning withdrawal and pain. Like you, I have chronic pain from multiple surgeries. In withdrawal and for a while afterward, some increased pain may well be noticed. The brain senRAB out search parties for any remnants of the drugs that was helping it to be a bit lazy in producing its own chemicals. Those search parties cause pain. Like the muscle aches noticed early on. As the brains source gets cut off more and more, it send those signals deeper and wider. They can hit deep into the bones and the nerves. It will ease up as we move further and further in recovery. NeeRAB time to level out to its true level.

In no way am I suggesting that we will be pain free when we get off the opiates, but I was surprised that my pain levels are actually lower off them than on them. I also now use the more time-consuming, but effective, reliefs like heat and cold and rest. I think about and deal with pain differently now than before. I also use self-hypniosis, which is really only a deep concentration, to pinpoint the pain and not let it just envelop me. That in itself has been a huge factor in controllling the emotions of pain.

Stay strong... you are doing well. Keep your mind open and learn all you can.

Always
reach
 
Hey denon,

I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!!! Seriously.... I have been catching up reading some of the posts and what not and you have done a really good job!

This whole process is one of the hardest things I have ever had to go thru and truly feel that anyone who has the strength to get thru it has a lot to be proud of.

I like that you post a lot and are so supportive to others... I normally am on here a lot more but as you know I have been sick.. I really look forward to getting to know you better! What you wrote about Oxy was DEAD ON. So true.... I think it's great you like to write! I think it will be a good outlet for you during your recovery process.

Anyways.... I think you are doing great and KEEP POSTING! It's great!

You will be in my continued thoughts and prayers!
~Secrets
 
I'm at Day 8 and I am using 2.5 Mg Oxy a day now.

Talked with the Pharmacist and he mentioned something I didn't know about going cold turkey off of Oxycodone, that people have gone into seizures. That was a fact I was missing from the info that I gathered.

Its 4:30 and I'm heading to bed.
 
Hey denon!!!

How's it going buddy? Great job on your taper... Okay.. I tapered off of oxycontin and oxycodone and never was told that... I was always under the impression that going cold turkey off Tramadol could cause siezure's... but not the oxy's.. However, I don't know for sure....

You are doing a great job!!! It's wonderful you are not suffering from w/d... My taper I suffered the whole 3 weeks.. I was miserable. I guess it's different for everyone and depending on how much we were all on plays a part in it but I am just happy for you that you are doing good!!!!

Well, hope you have a great day!
~Secrets
 
Today was the BEST day since I've started to detox. It's 1:30 AM and I have yet to take a single Perc all day long. I stayed busy today, well of course after I pulled my ares out of be at 2:30 PM today. Sheesh the day goes by fast when you get up at 2:30! I can't imaging trying to detox while having a job!!!!! I'm fortunate that I work whenever I want to, but then again I would actually need a JOB to get paid for the work I do!! ;-)
 
Denon, That is AWESOME!!!! That is so great that you are doing so good. I am so happy for you. You sound great and like you are in control of your future. I know the feeling you are feeling right now, and it is awesome, isn't it? You are kicking the pill's butt. Way to go!!! Have a great weekend. TaCot
 
Denon,


I am proud of you for going through what you are going through right now. I know, just like everyone else here knows, what a lonely feeling it is to go through withdrawl. Whether it was the times I went through withdrawl by choice to try and quit my drug of choice, or the times I went through withdrawl waiting for a phone call to come with my drug of choice, the bottom line is it is a terrible feeling that cannot be competly described to "an outsider". There is one positive aspect to these terrible feelings, both physicaly and emotionally, that withdrawl or in your case tapering can end up helping us in our recovery. I am sure that at this point you are thinking about how great the pills make you feel and how everything would be fine if you could just take enough pills to get you high, and in this regard those thoughts will never completely go away. Years from now after you have kicked the habit, you will always have those thoughts come into your head from time to time and hopefully your memory of withdrawl and all of the the symptoms that withdrawl entails will keep you from going back.

The one thing that is my anchor in recovery is remerabering all of those lonely nights and the depression and physical pain that I had to deal with waiting for my best friend opiates to bail me out. I know that now I no longer have to deal with those terrible feelings and I no longer have to feel like I am on an island alone with no where else to go but down. So right now try and remeraber how you feel and how awful it is and tell yourself that these are feelings that you never want to experience again. And remeraber these thoughts months from now or even years from now when you are getting those cravings to go back, and your brain is telling you that you have changed and you can handle just taking a few pills, know that you cannot handle jsut taking a few pills, know that even taking one pill will start a chain of events that will bring you right back to that lonely island. Remeraber all of the positive things that have happened to you since you cleaned up, and remeraber all of the stress it took to live that life at the behest of a pill.

I wish you the best of luck in your recovery, and if even one thing that i just wrote can help you in any way, shape or form either now or in the future than that is a positive thing. One thing that is often overlooked in society because of the stigma of drug addiction, is that recovering addicts are very strong people and posses will power that others couldnt even imagine. What i try to explain to people who feel that all addicts are just weak junkies is to think of themselves and picture having to stop eating completely, granted it is different because humans need food to survive, but i think it is a meaningful comparision. Now for those to people to think of what strenght and will power it would take to deprive themsleves of something that their body is beggin for, well this is no different than the strength and will power it takes an addict to kick their addiction, because in the strong grasp of addiction, the human body depenRAB on this drug in the same way that it depenRAB on food to survive. Sorry to go on and on about this but sometimes when i start writing it just keeps coming out. Again, good luck to you.
 
Denon, Since you are tapering, you might find that the withdrawals are not bad at all. I tapered slowly, and was so nervous when I was taking my 1/2 pill per day, that I was making myself sick. Reachout, a meraber on here, told me that I was walking off of the drug and not jumping and to relax. She was right, when I stopped taking them, I had NO withdrawal symptoms. Tapering was by far worse for me that the actual quitting. So, go into quitting with an open mind, because it probably won't be nearly as bad as you think. I think the anxiety of quitting is far worse than the actual quitting.

You sound great and you are doing wonderful!!!! Go Cardinals!!
 
Thanks TaCot. Yesterday I only took 2.5 mg for the entire day and I had no withdrawals at all and none today. I have noticed that my nerve pain has increased from my injury, but the Lyrica is helping me deal with that.

I told my wife this morning that I will see how far I can make it today and I may try going cold turkey starting today. Everyday is a new chapter and I just have to see how it unfolRAB for me today.

Thanks for your support.
 
Thanks pingeye2 - I think my biggest problem was being so naive about the drug that the doctors put me on. Until I started having withdrawals and not knowing what was happening and then I started the research. I'm still learning more and more each day.

I never took the pills for any euphoric effect. I strictly took them to help relieve the pain. Between them and the other drugs that the doctor had me on, they made me sleepy, which I enjoyed because when I was asleep was the only time I didn't feel pain. The Percs cover the pain some, but never ever stopped it.

I love to write and one night before bed I wrote a short article called, "I'm a Drug Addict." I learned from this group that I'm NOT a drug addict, but I have a drug dependency to stop my pain. There was a good analogy comparing insulin to a diabetic. A diabetic is not addicted to insulin, they are dependent on it. I'll have to throw away my article I wrote now. :-)

I found out that I learn something new everyday and I have tried in the four days that I have been on this forum to share that knowledge with people here. I'm taking things one day at a time right now and what I learn or experience today, I'll apply to tomorrow and see what it brings and and try to get me one step closer to becoming dependency free.

Thanks for sharing with me.
 
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