Coconut oil..........look again.

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ImStillMags wrote:


Thanks for posting this. It was indeed interesting. I still don't know
what to think, however. It seemed to say that it might not be as bad as
once thought. The only thing good though, is the taste!

If you read the article carefully, there is something for everybody. A
paragraph saying it's not so bad is followed by one saying it's not so
good, one paragraph after another.

Still, there are no numbers in the article. The important claim to me
is that:

?Most of the studies involving coconut oil were done with partially
hydrogenated coconut oil, which researchers used because they needed to
raise the cholesterol levels of their rabbits in order to collect
certain data,? Dr. Brenna said. ?Virgin coconut oil, which has not been
chemically treated, is a different thing in terms of a health risk
perspective. And maybe it isn?t so bad for you after all.?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
On Mar 1, 8:30?pm, Dan Abel wrote:

While not as bad as trans-fatty hydrogenated oils, coconut and palm
kernel oils are very unhealthy because they are extremely high in
lauric acid. The article is misleading, and has zero basis in fact.
Calling lauric (c-12) "medium chain" is also bullshit, as they're
trying to put it in the same class as the healthy capric (c-10) and
caprylic (c-8) saturated fatty acids for purposes of blood lipid
health. While it's true that lauric is technically "medium chain,"
lauric should really be grouped with the unhealthy myristic (c-14) and
palmitic (c-16) acids as far as nutrition goes, because all three
cause increases in LDL levels that far exceed any increases in HDL.
Virgin coconut oil also has quite a bit of myristic acid. I know what
I'm talking about here, which is obviously a lot more than the
knucklehead who wrote that article.

--Bryan
 
Dan Abel wrote:




Coconut oil is good if you want a vegan, non-hydrogenated oil with some
of the texture / mouth-feel characteristics of shortening, butter, or
lard. There is a local vegan donut maker who uses it and it makes the
donuts pretty irresistable.

The idea that it makes superior oven-roasted potatoes is interesting,
but I'm not like going to run right out and try it. It's not going to
become one of the five or so mainstay oils I always keep on hand.

Steve
 
On Mar 1, 9:59?pm, [email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:

It is more unhealthy than butter, and a lot more unhealthy than lard.
The only good thing one can say about it is that it's not as bad as
the artificially hydrogenated oils.

--Bryan
 
On Mar 1, 9:30?pm, Dan Abel wrote:

I've been using coconut oil for cooking. An artical I read said it
was nest to olive oil as far as being healthy.
You can do a search for more information.

Lucille
 
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Bryan wrote:


But to repeat exactly what Steve said, it's one of the few alternatives
for vegans who don't want hydrogenated oils. Neither butter nor lard
qualify as vegan, and the substitutes with similar characteristics are
hydrogenated, to my knowledge.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
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Lucille wrote:



I, and others, have in fact done a search for more information. Other
than the above article, which is not very definitive, all of the
articles appear to be written by people who are selling coconut oil.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
"Dan Abel" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

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Lucille wrote:



I, and others, have in fact done a search for more information. Other
than the above article, which is not very definitive, all of the
articles appear to be written by people who are selling coconut oil.


Dan Abel





Try this article.......Yes and No.....

Also, in the light of another post, it was commented by some that my
responses appeared to be a continuation of the post I was responding
to......Does this post appear that way?......or is it improved?..... I use
Windows Live Mail, and hate it!

http://tinyurl.com/65s33p

BB
 
"Steve Pope" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Bigbazza wrote:


No, this latest post of yours also does not have proper indentation of
included text.

Steve




Well how do I fix that, Steve, any idea?...... After explaining what is
happening to my senior groups, I was told that the

"proper indentation of included text." as you have described it, Steve, does
not appear, but with the space I leave between my response and the post I am
responding to (about 5-6 lines below) separates it enough to see it as a
response and not part of the post I am responding to......

I never had this problem before, either on earlier Windows Mail Live or
OE6....It has only started in the last 3 or 4 of months I believe......

BB
 
>Well how do I fix that, Steve, any idea?...... After explaining what is

I do not know, because I am unfamiliar with your news client. Most
clients puts in the expected indentation, which would be one more ">"
character in front of the included text than your client is putting in.
It's quite possibly a paramter setting; or, you could switch to a
different client.

Steve
 
"Steve Pope" wrote in message news:[email protected]...


I do not know, because I am unfamiliar with your news client. Most
clients puts in the expected indentation, which would be one more ">"
character in front of the included text than your client is putting in.
It's quite possibly a paramter setting; or, you could switch to a
different client.

Steve


I just checked back on some of my posts, and the change seems to have
occurred immediately after I had an update from Windows Update of 'Windows
Live Essentials 2011' update on 20th October 2010........ So it must be
something to do with that update....Before then the >"proper indentation of
included text." showed on all past posts.....??

BB
 
On Mar 1, 11:06?pm, Lucille wrote:

Bullshit.


Yes, you can. You can believe non-scientific kooks, or you can focus
on peer reviewed studies on the effects of specific fatty acids on
plasma lipoproteins.

--Bryan
 
Bryan wrote:


In my opinion, you are dead wrong. I eat coconut oil by the spoonful
precisely because it's so good for you.

Hydrogenated (partially or not) vegetable oils are bad for you, period.
Of all the natural oils you can ingest, I believe coconut is the
healthiest - we're not talking "least bad" here - it's good for you, and
you're better off having it than not.

Do some reading - plenty of books out there with titles like "The Great
Cholesterol Con" and "The Coconut Oil Miracle", both of which I have
read. Plenty to read on the Internet, too.

NB: I recently had a physical - my good cholesterol is more than twice
the required number, and I am in excellent health by any measure.

Eat coconut oil because it's good for you.

-S-
 
On 02/03/2011 12:28 AM, Dan Abel wrote:


I have to go by the advice from the dietitian I met with recently. I
made a point of asking her about coconut because the pamphlets I had
been given advised against eating it but there were internet articles
that gave contrary advice. I like coconut and we use coconut milk for
curry dishes. Her advice was that it is not good for you, that it
should be avoided. She suggested that I can get away with using coconut
milk for curries but that I had to remove the separated fat instead of
stirring it back into the liquid.
 
On 02/03/2011 6:55 AM, Steve Freides wrote:


Saturated fats are also bad for you, and coconut oil is a saturated fat.





Yes indeed. Do some reading.


Twice the required number? High cholesterol is not a good thing. it is
good to have more HDL than LDL. There is a safe level for low most
people. Once you have had a cardiac problem they lower the target level.
There is a reason that they prescribe medication to lower cholesterol
and put people on diets to reduce it.

But if you know better than the health professionals.... go for it.
I am still recovering from open heart surgery four months ago. It it
something I don't ever want to have to go through again.
 
In article ,
" Bigbazza" wrote:






Thanks, BB. I have bookmarked this URL and will use it as my standard
comeback when people say coconut oil is bad or good.

I'm not going to add more coconut oil to my diet. I'm not going to
replace other saturated fats with coconut oil. I don't see the evidence
that it's better. On the other hand, coconut oil, like butter, lard,
chocolate and bacon, tastes good, and I will continue to eat it, but in
limited quantities. I've read several times in the last couple of days,
to limit saturated fats to 7-10% of total daily calories. That's not
too hard to do.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
In article ,
" Bigbazza" wrote:




It's a known bug of OE/Windows Mail, but only when responding to certain
posts. There is an addon to fix it. Perhaps you did that fix (and I
don't remember what it's called for LiveMail) and your update overwrote
it?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
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