lifewhispers1
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If not, then why is my choice to marry my same sex partner any of yours?
LucianoN: Apparently, it is a very large percentage. After all, millions of happy, peppy Christians, with love, joy, and Jesus in their hearts marched proudly into voting booths all over the US to stomp all over my civil right to marry my same sex partner of 17 years. If there were only a small percentage that considered that any of their business, they could have never succeeded - but, they did.
Dr Bob says, "You err (like a great many other stereotyping homosexuals) when you imply that only Christians have a problem with homosexual marriages."
How so? I have yet to hear any secular reasons why I should not be allowed to marry my same-sex partner. The only reasons I ever hear are based on religious beliefs ("God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", etc.)
Were it not for Christians who consider it their business who I marry, I would have my right to marry my same sex partner.
JustMe says, "It became my business when you put it on the ballot and asked for it. "
I didn't put it on the ballot and I don't think it belongs there. No one should ever have the right to vote on the civil rights of others. Civil rights are an entitlement in the US - not a ballot initiative. The Supreme Court will end up setting the matter straight, regardless of what Christian voters think.
Dr Bob says, "Are you somehow suggesting that it's not fair for people to vote their conscience?"
I'm saying it is none of their business to vote one way, or the other on the matter. Their opinion on homosexual marriage shouldn't count for anything - period.
To put this in proper perspective for you, should I or any number of atheists be allowed to vote on your right to follow your religion? Is it any of our business what religion you choose to follow? Should such a matter EVER be put on a ballot for others to decide?
Dr Bob says, "Just don't require me to participate and endorse your choice by modifying the law and the definition of marriage to accommodate you."
Excuse me? There was a mad rush to set the definition of marriage into stone, as it were, as soon as it was discovered that it hadn't already been defined the way Christians wanted it defined. And, marriage has been in existence for much longer than Christianity and has been redefined countless times in countless cultures throughout the history of mankind. Christians do not own marriage - they never have and they never will. And, if my tax dollars have to be spent on school taxes for children I will never have and on supporting baby factory heterosexuals who can't afford the kids they keep pumping out, then heterosexuals can bear whatever, if any, expenses that might be incurred by my marrying my same-sex partner.
Dr Bob says, "Yes, your homosexual relationship is secondary to everyone's right to religious freedom (or freedom from religion.) "
Your right to practice your religion does not include the right to take mine away.
Dr Bob says, "But there does not exist a "right" to redefine what a marriage is and make it apply to any relationship that you deem desirable."
But, that is exactly what Christians have done. Why do Christians get to redefine marriage, but no one else?
LucianoN: Apparently, it is a very large percentage. After all, millions of happy, peppy Christians, with love, joy, and Jesus in their hearts marched proudly into voting booths all over the US to stomp all over my civil right to marry my same sex partner of 17 years. If there were only a small percentage that considered that any of their business, they could have never succeeded - but, they did.
Dr Bob says, "You err (like a great many other stereotyping homosexuals) when you imply that only Christians have a problem with homosexual marriages."
How so? I have yet to hear any secular reasons why I should not be allowed to marry my same-sex partner. The only reasons I ever hear are based on religious beliefs ("God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", etc.)
Were it not for Christians who consider it their business who I marry, I would have my right to marry my same sex partner.
JustMe says, "It became my business when you put it on the ballot and asked for it. "
I didn't put it on the ballot and I don't think it belongs there. No one should ever have the right to vote on the civil rights of others. Civil rights are an entitlement in the US - not a ballot initiative. The Supreme Court will end up setting the matter straight, regardless of what Christian voters think.
Dr Bob says, "Are you somehow suggesting that it's not fair for people to vote their conscience?"
I'm saying it is none of their business to vote one way, or the other on the matter. Their opinion on homosexual marriage shouldn't count for anything - period.
To put this in proper perspective for you, should I or any number of atheists be allowed to vote on your right to follow your religion? Is it any of our business what religion you choose to follow? Should such a matter EVER be put on a ballot for others to decide?
Dr Bob says, "Just don't require me to participate and endorse your choice by modifying the law and the definition of marriage to accommodate you."
Excuse me? There was a mad rush to set the definition of marriage into stone, as it were, as soon as it was discovered that it hadn't already been defined the way Christians wanted it defined. And, marriage has been in existence for much longer than Christianity and has been redefined countless times in countless cultures throughout the history of mankind. Christians do not own marriage - they never have and they never will. And, if my tax dollars have to be spent on school taxes for children I will never have and on supporting baby factory heterosexuals who can't afford the kids they keep pumping out, then heterosexuals can bear whatever, if any, expenses that might be incurred by my marrying my same-sex partner.
Dr Bob says, "Yes, your homosexual relationship is secondary to everyone's right to religious freedom (or freedom from religion.) "
Your right to practice your religion does not include the right to take mine away.
Dr Bob says, "But there does not exist a "right" to redefine what a marriage is and make it apply to any relationship that you deem desirable."
But, that is exactly what Christians have done. Why do Christians get to redefine marriage, but no one else?