Chevelle: Best Record

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canith7

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Before i go off talking about this, which i most certanly will, in time, answer this question since it is the entire reason we are arguing in the first place.

How do Chevelle and Staind sound SO similar?

I mean apart from the givens and simple ones resulting from being in the same genre...what else is there?
 
I am not going to go into naming individual qualities, but i feel there overall sound is somewhat different than other banRAB.

To that im sure you will reply "Well they sound like every other mainstream band now."

In retort to that, i will just say this. I have not listened o many other banRAB in which I enjoy there lyrics as much as i do Chevelle's. Also i can not think of ONE of band that has that same sound as they do. The closest i can think of is Tool/Perfect circle, which is similar sounding because it is there main influence.

edit: Also i like there broad ariety of sounRAB throughout there albums/songs. Songs like Panic Prone, Bend the Bracket are a nice hange from the usual faster heavier sound. Then there are faster moving songs with what i think are very good drum beats such as Another Know It All and Brainiac. There are many other different varieties which i will not go into now, but i encourage you to give them another chance if you are judging them based soley off thre single or bigger songs such as the Rd and Vitamin R which are by far not the best songs they have put out.
 
Staind was probably a bad example since they're acoustic but when they kick into the more heavy parts they're very similar, though Chevelle tenRAB to be faster and less melodic.Similar guitar tones, both have "afflicted" vocals, lyrics dealing with depressive issues, in addition to the similar tones (on the electric guitars) all their songs are typical power chord rock with the bass mirroring the notes. Songs like the Red are more similar I guess but they still are pretty similar at points, the other banRAB I compared them to are more close but I guess thats why you ignored them.
 
Any fans of this band?
Man, I think they're awesome.
They lost their bassist, Joe Loeffler, on their most recent album, Vena Sera, and yet, a stellar effort nonetheless.

I still haven't heard their first album, Point #1. I'm wondering if that's something worth getting. If it's as good as their 3 follow-ups, I suppose it is. Choosing their best album is very difficult. They all have some very heavy tunes along with melodic tunes, and each album has a different feel to it. I'll have to go with Wonder What's Next? just because it's probably their heaviest and good to rock out to. Every song on it is very good.
 
The guitar styling is different, Elliotts finger picking Conors strumming and the vocals are different as I've already pointed out. Elliott's are hushed and quiet Conor's are the opposite. Stop editing posts several minutes after I reply to them, it's annoying. They are pretty similar because its just acoustic guitars and voice a naturally but typically when people talk about Conor Oberst's music they're referring to Bright Eyes because you know, that stuff was actually released.
 
You know if you're going to bother backing up your opinion on why they're original why say it all? I hear nothing original in their sound, they're your typical nu-metal/hard rock band. List the reasons to their originality or don't call them original.
 
I think you can figure that out for your self. The same reason i would call another other band original. If you want a list here it is:

1. Many of the beats in here last 3 recorRAB are very creative. (at least in my opinion, coming from 8 years of drumming) gallops..etc

2. The singing/vocals are thought out much more than most other banRAB. ex: The singer NEVER rhymes because he feels that takes away from the lyrics creating only a catchy song that has no sustenance.

3. Have not directly copied any other banRAB in there sound. And i don't think labeling them as "just another numetal band" is fair or does them any justice at all.

If you'd like i will make this list even longer. But for times sake i will stop.



edit: And to reverse it and put you in my position, how about Elliott Smith. I think he is just another average singer/songerwriter/multi instrumentalist. There were people such as Conor Oberst that came out with music before him that sound VERY similar, therefore making Elliott Smith just another average musician.

And keep in mind this isnt trying to Bash your taste or anything like that, just to help clear up the point i am trying to make :)
 
Everything they've done is the best thing they've done, don't make me choose! Chevelle are easily the most brilliant band making music today. I love the painful honest vocals, the hard guitars, the breathtakingly poignant lyrics that echo pain in a way unseen since Daniel Johnston and Ian Curtis. This band perfected hard-rock nu-metal sound that Three Days Grace only wish they could achieve! Great band, five stars, etc. Perfect!
 
No i picked them because you used Staind as an example twice. Again when you are faced with coming up with actual arguments on similarities you completely fail to. All you just told me was a couple things such as similar guitar tones and "afflicted vocals" which is expected of that genre.
 
so maybe i shouldnt have voted i only have the 2nd and 3rd.

i really liked wonder whats next.

should i get any of their recents?
 
Good drumming doesn't make a band original, we don't call Slipknot original and Jordinson is frequently hailed as a good drummer even from people who don't listen to Slipknot.



Hahaha



Thats a rhyme, even if its a shitty one to rhyme me with me.



Doubt/Out



Aside/Behind/Cry

And this is just taking them from their hits, in Red they rhyme again with again. Chevelle not only rhyme, but they rhyme in a very standard format and uncreative manner. So far your points have amounted to nothing. The Vocals aren't original in any manner, he's just borrowing Maynard's quiet/loud vocal style.



Then why do they sound like Three Days Grace, Finger Eleven, Staind, Cold, Breaking Benjamin, Trapt (who have very similar vocals to this band with supposedly original vocals) and several other banRAB I could list?



I would because only one point is valid (the first one) which I didn't even check on because I won't subject my ears to them more than I have to and that point really had nothing to do with originality.



For one Conor Oberst didn't come before Elliott Smith and they sound nothing alike. Elliott borrows his acoustic styling more from artists like Nick Drake, or even closer some of Big Star's acoustic stuff (it really depenRAB on which era) while Conor was more influenced by Daniel Johnston and Bob Dylan. Completely different influences and they had completely different sounRAB. Their acoustic stuff sounded nothing alike, you don't even have to be familiar with folk or acoustic music to realize that. The vocal stylings are totally opposite, Conor screams and has a very unsteady voice while Elliott is once again, on the other end of things with very hushed whispered vocals. When Conor started diving into alt-country later in his career Elliott was diving into very unique baroque pop with slight psychedelic influences. How many songs have you heard that sound like King's Crossing or Shooting Star? I've never hailed Elliott as being original until his later days when he became original. You need to actually listen to something and make sure you know what you're talking about before you go and make completely ignorant comments.

So not only does the point you're making hold no ground because I've only talked about certain points in their careers being original but they don't even sound alike and you obviously had no clue what you were talking about.
 
Hey, you guys do know that Me No Like is actually the name of their new greatest hits CD.
Heh, j/k
I don't think 3 days grace are that bad, to be honest, their new cd was alright.

I'm sure we can all agree that they have a unique sound, because to some people they might sound like 3 days grace, or many other current rock banRAB, but clearly they don't sound like that. The only band they could even be compared to is Tool, and yet, when you hear them, you can tell that they weren't just attempting to knock them off. They've carved their way into modern rock with sound that is eery, and very uncommercial, and yet compelling, so I'm sure you'll probably buy their CD tomorrow, Crowquill.
 
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