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Car tire on my Road King
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Chocolategirl
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Heheheh ... sounds like you've been to the same bar Watch Guy goes to.
It's all good folks. Try it. Don't try it. It's your bike, your decision, your money. There's no way we can all agree on this. Just like liberals and conservatives look at life differently; so do we on this subject.
It's all good folks. Try it. Don't try it. It's your bike, your decision, your money. There's no way we can all agree on this. Just like liberals and conservatives look at life differently; so do we on this subject.
Money is always an issue, unless you don't mind wasting it. Personally, I do.
I had one of these oversized suckers on my chopper and didn't really enjoy being ripped off every 4,000 miles. If grip was superior, I could have made a case for it but they were just average on dry and pretty much sucked on wet.
MC Touring tires are just a tad better but $300 every 7,500 miles is not cutting it for me.
I don't mind paying a premium for superior oil, but I'm not happy to have to pay a premium for inferior tires.
Just my opinion. Whatever floats your boat is fine with me.
I had one of these oversized suckers on my chopper and didn't really enjoy being ripped off every 4,000 miles. If grip was superior, I could have made a case for it but they were just average on dry and pretty much sucked on wet.
MC Touring tires are just a tad better but $300 every 7,500 miles is not cutting it for me.
I don't mind paying a premium for superior oil, but I'm not happy to have to pay a premium for inferior tires.
Just my opinion. Whatever floats your boat is fine with me.
All,
I had an 05 VTX 1800. I decided after many hours of research to install a CT on the rear of the bike. I purchased a 195/60/16 Hankook radial tyre. I pulled the wheel and set about to have it mounted......... The Honda dealership said I was carzy to try this and refused to install the tyre. I spent half the day trying to find someone to install my tyre. Finally I found an indy that said he would do it but I would have to come back after closing so no other customers would see what he was going to do. With the tyre mounted I made my way over to the local Les Schwab to install the balancing powder or what ever it was. The same stuff that is used in large truck tyres.
After re-installing the tyre on my bike, I spent the next 500 miles mainly freeway riding to remove the releasing compound. During that time I also experminted with air pressure to find that sweet spot. Ok.... Now it's time to hit the twisties. I live in southwest Idaho, there are an abundance of mountain roads and I hit them all. At first I took it easy and as my confidence in the Hankook grew so did my speed. I began to drag pegs and this is where I experienced the problems. There was for better words a hinge effect.
The front of the bike was on rails...however the rear of the bike felt like it was loosing and regaining traction and was wagging back and forth. I changed pressure up and down and couldn't get comfortable. I like to ride agressively at times especially through the turns. This car tyre was NOT for me. It's great if you ride two-up and cruise along and never grag pegs or push your bike anywhere near it's limits. All in all I put around 2 thousand miles on this CT before changing back to an MT. I get a kick out of the statement everyone or many are doing this....... Many people use Meth..
It's your decision......
I had an 05 VTX 1800. I decided after many hours of research to install a CT on the rear of the bike. I purchased a 195/60/16 Hankook radial tyre. I pulled the wheel and set about to have it mounted......... The Honda dealership said I was carzy to try this and refused to install the tyre. I spent half the day trying to find someone to install my tyre. Finally I found an indy that said he would do it but I would have to come back after closing so no other customers would see what he was going to do. With the tyre mounted I made my way over to the local Les Schwab to install the balancing powder or what ever it was. The same stuff that is used in large truck tyres.
After re-installing the tyre on my bike, I spent the next 500 miles mainly freeway riding to remove the releasing compound. During that time I also experminted with air pressure to find that sweet spot. Ok.... Now it's time to hit the twisties. I live in southwest Idaho, there are an abundance of mountain roads and I hit them all. At first I took it easy and as my confidence in the Hankook grew so did my speed. I began to drag pegs and this is where I experienced the problems. There was for better words a hinge effect.
The front of the bike was on rails...however the rear of the bike felt like it was loosing and regaining traction and was wagging back and forth. I changed pressure up and down and couldn't get comfortable. I like to ride agressively at times especially through the turns. This car tyre was NOT for me. It's great if you ride two-up and cruise along and never grag pegs or push your bike anywhere near it's limits. All in all I put around 2 thousand miles on this CT before changing back to an MT. I get a kick out of the statement everyone or many are doing this....... Many people use Meth..
It's your decision......
Sir Sandwich Slayer
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Felix,
I fully respect your opinion but let me just say a few things.
First, nobody claims that car tires are for everyone. It's a personal decision and whatever you prefer is perfectly fine. It's true that only a very small proportion have a car tire on their bike but I wouldn't conclude that they're less safe or less efficient than motorcycle tires. More riders wear 1/2 helmets than full face helmets on cruisers and this doesn't mean they offer better protection. See where I'm getting at?
Second, I've been riding for almost 40 years and I've seen VERY FEW people pushing their bike to the limit on open roads, and even less pushing a cruiser or a touring bike to the limit. I'm not an aggressive rider but I'm not a wuss either. We rode more than 1,000 miles in the Smoky Mountains last summer where we saw 000s of bikes and nobody was riding much faster than the others, besides crotch rockets.
Third, I rode the Dragon with several other cruisers and touring bikes and some of them had CTs. They were perfectly fine, neither faster nor slower than us and their trajectories were identical to ours.
Fourth, you are one of the very few who say, after having used one for 2,000 miles, that CTs are not for him. 99.99% of the people who have tried claim that they will not go back to MTs.
Considering the symptoms you describe, maybe your rear tire was not properly inflated? Out of curiosity, what was the sweet spot you determined, in terms of air pressure? Maybe your rear shocks were low in pressure?
Not trying to sway you back, by the way.
I fully respect your opinion but let me just say a few things.
First, nobody claims that car tires are for everyone. It's a personal decision and whatever you prefer is perfectly fine. It's true that only a very small proportion have a car tire on their bike but I wouldn't conclude that they're less safe or less efficient than motorcycle tires. More riders wear 1/2 helmets than full face helmets on cruisers and this doesn't mean they offer better protection. See where I'm getting at?
Second, I've been riding for almost 40 years and I've seen VERY FEW people pushing their bike to the limit on open roads, and even less pushing a cruiser or a touring bike to the limit. I'm not an aggressive rider but I'm not a wuss either. We rode more than 1,000 miles in the Smoky Mountains last summer where we saw 000s of bikes and nobody was riding much faster than the others, besides crotch rockets.
Third, I rode the Dragon with several other cruisers and touring bikes and some of them had CTs. They were perfectly fine, neither faster nor slower than us and their trajectories were identical to ours.
Fourth, you are one of the very few who say, after having used one for 2,000 miles, that CTs are not for him. 99.99% of the people who have tried claim that they will not go back to MTs.
Considering the symptoms you describe, maybe your rear tire was not properly inflated? Out of curiosity, what was the sweet spot you determined, in terms of air pressure? Maybe your rear shocks were low in pressure?
Not trying to sway you back, by the way.
ilovepointe
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Dude,
I don't care if it's gas, oil, tires, dealer services, accessories, insurance or whatever. Buying a MC tire that costs twice as much, last 4 times less and performs no better than a CT, is a waste of money to me.
I don't care if it's gas, oil, tires, dealer services, accessories, insurance or whatever. Buying a MC tire that costs twice as much, last 4 times less and performs no better than a CT, is a waste of money to me.
Frenchbiker,
It's been awhile, but I think 36 psi was where I found the tyre to be most comfortable. During my expermentation I got as high as 42 and as low as 32. As I remember lower pressure made it worse and higher pressure was a slight improvement. I just was not comfortable. I don't want to make it sound like I ride all day everywhere with my hair on fire. I want to have confidence in my motorcycle. It just wasn't there with the CT. I did not try different tyres, but based my selection on what others had posted in the VTX Darkside Forum. The CT performed well on the highway and around town. The ride was very comfortable. I really loved the look of the wide tyre from the rear of the VTX-C. The folks that use CT's surely have their reasons, and I hope they stay safe.
I now have a 2007 SG. So a CT is out of the question. Based on my prior CT experience I am an MT guy. I have 28500 on my 07 and I'm on my second rear tyre. I was able to get a lil over 17,000 miles out of my stock Dunlop. That included a trip to Sturgis and several trips throught Northern Cali. I love highway 299 that runs from Redding to Eureka. I now have Metzlers on the bike. I ride solo 99% of the time, my wife has her own Dyna. I'm not a rear breaker unless the situation requires it. I regularly check my tyre pressures. I get on it occasionally but generally cruise in a group with my bros. I have been riding for 40 some years myself, and despite several close calls I'm still alive.
It's been awhile, but I think 36 psi was where I found the tyre to be most comfortable. During my expermentation I got as high as 42 and as low as 32. As I remember lower pressure made it worse and higher pressure was a slight improvement. I just was not comfortable. I don't want to make it sound like I ride all day everywhere with my hair on fire. I want to have confidence in my motorcycle. It just wasn't there with the CT. I did not try different tyres, but based my selection on what others had posted in the VTX Darkside Forum. The CT performed well on the highway and around town. The ride was very comfortable. I really loved the look of the wide tyre from the rear of the VTX-C. The folks that use CT's surely have their reasons, and I hope they stay safe.
I now have a 2007 SG. So a CT is out of the question. Based on my prior CT experience I am an MT guy. I have 28500 on my 07 and I'm on my second rear tyre. I was able to get a lil over 17,000 miles out of my stock Dunlop. That included a trip to Sturgis and several trips throught Northern Cali. I love highway 299 that runs from Redding to Eureka. I now have Metzlers on the bike. I ride solo 99% of the time, my wife has her own Dyna. I'm not a rear breaker unless the situation requires it. I regularly check my tyre pressures. I get on it occasionally but generally cruise in a group with my bros. I have been riding for 40 some years myself, and despite several close calls I'm still alive.