Can you sync two Palms using the same profile on the same computer?

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Hey All!

Got a really crazy question for all the experienced users out there. I have a T|X and have a Palm IIIx just lying around being idle (and my cousin is trying to palm off a Z22 to me for cheap - excuse the pun). Because I tend to be very busy these days, I was thinking of having a secondary PDA that I could just leave in my car or take to places where I don't want my T|X to go (just so I can still be organised - I've become rather dependant on my PDA :-S ).

Anyways, the question is, I have a Hotsync User Profile set up on my computer (for arguments sake, lets say its Andrew) ... can I get both Palms to sync with this profile without making any additional adjustments? What I want is this secondary PDA to be a mirror image of the first PDA (mainly the calendar entries, contacts and other PIM information). Is this possible? I haven't tried to do it as of yet, because I'm scared it might do something to my perfectly smooth system!

Thanks gang!
 
You can't do it if you are syncing to the Palm Desktop.

You can sync to Outlook and share the PIM information but you still have to have two separate User Names - one for each device. So lets say you have one called Andrew and the 2nd one called Andrew2 - you will have to user names and thus on the Palm Desktop you'd have two usernames each with it's own PIM data. In Outlook - you could share the same PIM data but you would still need the two usernames.

The Palm preference file for each device must be unique. And the second you start "sharing" these will get messed up and you'll start resetting and you'll have to hard reset nearly every hot sync.
 
Questions?

How would he be able to share the same data?

If you used the same username ( in order to have the same data) and you have two instances of same desktop installation on the same drive - how is that possible as to if the two devices had the same username which "copy" of the desktop would the device know to sync to? Andrew or Andrew?

Please expand on all the steps, since it sounds as if you have done this, that you took in order to get 2 copies of the Palm Desktop on one pc using two similar devices with the identical username sharing one set of PIM data?

That plus the fact that the III is Palm OS3.1? and the TX is OS 5.4.x.......the PIM data is enhanced on the TX but not on the III.

One device is USB and one is Serial. There is no way to configure these two devices to share the same PIM data on the Palm Desktop - can't be done unless somehow you've managed a way that is not known.

Two devices can be configured to share Outlook data but they must have different user names. To share the same PIM info on the Palm -can't be done without an awful lot of manual work each time a device changes.
 
A big thanks to Moose Man and Johnling for their responses. I understand where you both are coming from. Richard, just out of curiosity, in your original response, did you mean that I had to do the following:

(1) Create two separate profiles
(2) Sync the T|X with Palm Desktop
(3) Switch to Outlook Conduits and then Sync my T|X to Outlook
(4) Sync my other PDA to Outlook
(5) Remember to return everything to status quo (ie. switch back the conduits)

:eek:

... coz I was afraid that that might be your response! I'm currently doing that with my iPaq 1930 and T|X ... because as you can appreciate, I don't want to take my delicate T|X to certain places (whereas I don't really care about what happens to the Ipaq). I was just hoping that having another Palm would mean that I didn't have to go through this labourious two-step stage everytime I change details in Palm Desktop.

Yes, I understand what you mean about the IIIx and that its PIM apps are more primitive than the T|X (not enhanced). I only realised that after I posted ... it's like one of those things that you say and then go, why the heck did I say that for :rolleyes:

But as I sort of mentioned in the first post, my cousin is thinking of offloading his Z22 to me if I want it ... but I guess with what you're saying Moose, that there's really no way to bypass this two-step stage? Any third party software out there that will do the trick??

You all do realise why I am doing this right? I'm not this because I'm bored :o ... Surely I can't be the only one with this query too??

 
If you just want to share PIM data, export the data from the existing user profile in Palm Desktop as archives, then import the archives into the respective components of Palm Desktop for other (new) user names. Your PIM data won't be automatically kept up-to-date between the different user names--you would have to do that manually--but you wouldn't have to manually re-enter the whole lot into each PDA to start with.
 
Andrew,

Let me be a little clearer. You can sync two Palm devices to Outlook and share the information that's in the Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and Memos between these two devices but they will have to have separate user names for each device. This can be accomplished by simply changing the sync method from Palm Desktop to Outlook. But in order to maintain this mirror image for each device - you would have to maintain syncing to Outlook.

What you are asking to do is to keep them both up to date on the Palm Desktop - this is impossible with the Palm Desktop to the best of my knowledge. It has never been done.

You can not (see Telyx's response) share the same user data on the Palm Destkop with two different devices without doing as Telyx noted. And these two devices must each have a unique username.

There may be programs out there that allow you to use the same Palm Desktop profile (thus share the calendar etc) but I am not aware of any.

But look at it this way - the security feature of the Palm desktop with regards to showing private records would be disabled in either scenario because you are sharing records. This is why Palm chose not to allow "sharing" of PIM data by using one Palm Profile on the desktop between two different devices (and other reasons).

I'm still interested in hearing from johnling about how he'd go about doing what he suggested in more detail?


So if you changed the sync to Outlook for the TX - then added the Z22 as a new username - with some additional minor tweaking they would both have the same PIM information and would be updated each time you sync'd. But without doing what Telyx outlined - not doing it on the Palm desktop.
 
I have a Treo 650 which I sync with my Palm desktop. I keep a duplicate of what's on the Treo simply by beaming the data to a T3. Quick and easy and saves too much fiddling about. I've never tried it but, in theory, if one made changes on the T3 those could be beamed to the Treo and synced to the desktop.

I don't use Outlook etc so this may not be convenient for you but works for me!

:D
 
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