have no facts? It all comes down to what you want to believe. If you are any kind of theist you want to believe there is a God because of hope. If you are an atheist you do not want there to be a God so you rather disbelieve. Why is everyone trying to convert, and argue over who is stupid and who is wrong???? I'm a christian I have never seen God and I have no way to prove that he exists and I admit. Athiest you have no clue how this universe was created, how it was formed, or anthing you just rather not believe. We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe. I just find it funny how everyone argues "There's a God" "No there's not". At the end of the day from both sides we both sound stupid to each other and make one another refuse to believe even more. You think we are stupid for believing in something that we have never seen. We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created. Can we all settle down and drink some ice cold lemonade?
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Can anyone prove there is a God or isn't? Then why is everyone arguing when they
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Muhammed Asif
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''If you are an atheist you do not want there to be a God so you rather disbelieve''
That's not true. Some atheists, including me, are actually eager to believe in God, but because of complete lack of evidence, we don't.
''Athiest you have no clue how this universe was created, how it was formed, or anthing you just rather not believe''
Replace ''atheist'' with human beings. And we do have some clues; we know of the Big Bang.
''We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe''
In science, you can't cherry-pick.
''At the end of the day from both sides we both sound stupid to each other and make one another refuse to believe even more''
In many ways, that's true. But you can't help it. Some people gets a real kick out of silly debates online where at the end of the day no one actually gets anywhere.
''We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created''
atheist theories? wtf? Its SCIENTIFIC theories, and science belongs to everyone and has been developed by everyone, not just atheists.
''Can we all settle down and drink some ice cold lemonade?''
Count me in =)
That's not true. Some atheists, including me, are actually eager to believe in God, but because of complete lack of evidence, we don't.
''Athiest you have no clue how this universe was created, how it was formed, or anthing you just rather not believe''
Replace ''atheist'' with human beings. And we do have some clues; we know of the Big Bang.
''We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe''
In science, you can't cherry-pick.
''At the end of the day from both sides we both sound stupid to each other and make one another refuse to believe even more''
In many ways, that's true. But you can't help it. Some people gets a real kick out of silly debates online where at the end of the day no one actually gets anywhere.
''We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created''
atheist theories? wtf? Its SCIENTIFIC theories, and science belongs to everyone and has been developed by everyone, not just atheists.
''Can we all settle down and drink some ice cold lemonade?''
Count me in =)
AutumnWynd777
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Facts? I am in Relationship with Yeshua/Jesus...that makes Him Real. Psalm 135 (Amplified Bible) 13Your name, O Lord, endures forever, Your fame, O Lord, throughout all ages. Ecclesiastes 3:11 (Amplified Bible) 11He has made everything beautiful in its time. He also has planted eternity in men's hearts and minds [a divinely implanted sense of a purpose working through the ages which nothing under the sun but God alone can satisfy], yet so that men cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end. Isaiah 54 (Amplified Bible) 8 In a little burst of wrath I hid My face from you for a moment, but with age-enduring love and kindness I will have compassion and mercy on you, says the Lord, your Redeemer. Isaiah 41 (Amplified Bible) 10Fear not [there is nothing to fear], for I am with you; do not look around you in terror and be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen and harden you to difficulties, yes, I will help you; yes, I will hold you up and retain you with My [victorious] right hand of rightness and justice. Matthew 28 (Amplified Bible)
20Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you [a]all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. [c]Amen (so let it be).
20Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you [a]all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. [c]Amen (so let it be).
Eleutherios
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Yes you can prove that the Saturnalian Abrahamic God Jews - muslims and christians worship represents nothing more than a false authority, their god is basically their religious misleaders. You can't prove something that doesn't exist doesn't exist, but you can show where these beliefs came from and what they were based upon... just because Christians are in denial and most would be too ignorant to understand it if I did explain it to them, doesn't mean it isn't so...
The argument, is not really about your god. But rather about, your forcing your god on me. Plus, the fact that you claim, the bible or other books as the word of your god. Using it as prof, of said gods existence. History has shown, that in fact the bible and other texts. Are constructs of human origins. Yet because of sheer numbers, you've been able to shout down anyone else's views. Just because, a whole lot of people believe in something, does not make it true.
The only ones who sound stupid, are you. I've read, or heard some truly inane, arguments. As to the existence, of your god. Some have made me laugh so hard, I almost pissed myself. In the end, I've never tried to disprove, the existence of your god. I don't have to, history and your religion does it for me.
Is there some kind of God, I don't know or care. What I do know, is that the prof, of the existence of your god is false. If your want to believe, that's up to you. I don't care, just stop shoving him in my face.
The only ones who sound stupid, are you. I've read, or heard some truly inane, arguments. As to the existence, of your god. Some have made me laugh so hard, I almost pissed myself. In the end, I've never tried to disprove, the existence of your god. I don't have to, history and your religion does it for me.
Is there some kind of God, I don't know or care. What I do know, is that the prof, of the existence of your god is false. If your want to believe, that's up to you. I don't care, just stop shoving him in my face.
"If you are an atheist you do not want there to be a God so you rather disbelieve"
WRONG !
1. I don't care if there's a 'god' or not.
2. Right now I can't convince myself there is one cos there is NO evidence.
"I'm a christian"
I would never have guessed.
"Athiest[sic] you have no clue how this universe was created"
True BUT just cos I don't know, I don't need to resort to the old GODDIDIT thingie.
"We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe"
WRONG !
I can NOT 'decide' to believe in invisible space chappies.
It's nothing but superstitious nonsense; I find it ludicrous and pathetic simultaneously.
"We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created."
WRONG !
I am an atheist cos I'm not into invisible sky critters and for NO other reason.
Bertrand Russell: There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths.
Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting.
But he dares not face this thought!
Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed.
~
WRONG !
1. I don't care if there's a 'god' or not.
2. Right now I can't convince myself there is one cos there is NO evidence.
"I'm a christian"
I would never have guessed.
"Athiest[sic] you have no clue how this universe was created"
True BUT just cos I don't know, I don't need to resort to the old GODDIDIT thingie.
"We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe"
WRONG !
I can NOT 'decide' to believe in invisible space chappies.
It's nothing but superstitious nonsense; I find it ludicrous and pathetic simultaneously.
"We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created."
WRONG !
I am an atheist cos I'm not into invisible sky critters and for NO other reason.
Bertrand Russell: There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths.
Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting.
But he dares not face this thought!
Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed.
~
Eleutherios
New member
Yes you can prove that the Saturnalian Abrahamic God Jews - muslims and christians worship represents nothing more than a false authority, their god is basically their religious misleaders. You can't prove something that doesn't exist doesn't exist, but you can show where these beliefs came from and what they were based upon... just because Christians are in denial and most would be too ignorant to understand it if I did explain it to them, doesn't mean it isn't so...
The argument, is not really about your god. But rather about, your forcing your god on me. Plus, the fact that you claim, the bible or other books as the word of your god. Using it as prof, of said gods existence. History has shown, that in fact the bible and other texts. Are constructs of human origins. Yet because of sheer numbers, you've been able to shout down anyone else's views. Just because, a whole lot of people believe in something, does not make it true.
The only ones who sound stupid, are you. I've read, or heard some truly inane, arguments. As to the existence, of your god. Some have made me laugh so hard, I almost pissed myself. In the end, I've never tried to disprove, the existence of your god. I don't have to, history and your religion does it for me.
Is there some kind of God, I don't know or care. What I do know, is that the prof, of the existence of your god is false. If your want to believe, that's up to you. I don't care, just stop shoving him in my face.
The only ones who sound stupid, are you. I've read, or heard some truly inane, arguments. As to the existence, of your god. Some have made me laugh so hard, I almost pissed myself. In the end, I've never tried to disprove, the existence of your god. I don't have to, history and your religion does it for me.
Is there some kind of God, I don't know or care. What I do know, is that the prof, of the existence of your god is false. If your want to believe, that's up to you. I don't care, just stop shoving him in my face.
The argument, is not really about your god. But rather about, your forcing your god on me. Plus, the fact that you claim, the bible or other books as the word of your god. Using it as prof, of said gods existence. History has shown, that in fact the bible and other texts. Are constructs of human origins. Yet because of sheer numbers, you've been able to shout down anyone else's views. Just because, a whole lot of people believe in something, does not make it true.
The only ones who sound stupid, are you. I've read, or heard some truly inane, arguments. As to the existence, of your god. Some have made me laugh so hard, I almost pissed myself. In the end, I've never tried to disprove, the existence of your god. I don't have to, history and your religion does it for me.
Is there some kind of God, I don't know or care. What I do know, is that the prof, of the existence of your god is false. If your want to believe, that's up to you. I don't care, just stop shoving him in my face.
The only ones who sound stupid, are you. I've read, or heard some truly inane, arguments. As to the existence, of your god. Some have made me laugh so hard, I almost pissed myself. In the end, I've never tried to disprove, the existence of your god. I don't have to, history and your religion does it for me.
Is there some kind of God, I don't know or care. What I do know, is that the prof, of the existence of your god is false. If your want to believe, that's up to you. I don't care, just stop shoving him in my face.
I've tried "believing" in organized religion but honestly I just don't REALLY TRULY believe it inside. It's not a matter of believing in god for me, it's a matter of following the teachings of a mysterious storybook that is riddled with contradicting beliefs, and violent hatred for non-believers.
If i ever came to believe in a creator of the universe, I wouldn't be following any particular organized religion and its old fables and teachings. I see our universe, gravity, nature, and life itself as a very intriguing and fascinating thing, but these customs such as praying on particular days, etc. just don't make any logical sense to me.
If i ever came to believe in a creator of the universe, I wouldn't be following any particular organized religion and its old fables and teachings. I see our universe, gravity, nature, and life itself as a very intriguing and fascinating thing, but these customs such as praying on particular days, etc. just don't make any logical sense to me.
AutumnWynd777
New member
Facts? I am in Relationship with Yeshua/Jesus...that makes Him Real. Psalm 135 (Amplified Bible) 13Your name, O Lord, endures forever, Your fame, O Lord, throughout all ages. Ecclesiastes 3:11 (Amplified Bible) 11He has made everything beautiful in its time. He also has planted eternity in men's hearts and minds [a divinely implanted sense of a purpose working through the ages which nothing under the sun but God alone can satisfy], yet so that men cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end. Isaiah 54 (Amplified Bible) 8 In a little burst of wrath I hid My face from you for a moment, but with age-enduring love and kindness I will have compassion and mercy on you, says the Lord, your Redeemer. Isaiah 41 (Amplified Bible) 10Fear not [there is nothing to fear], for I am with you; do not look around you in terror and be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen and harden you to difficulties, yes, I will help you; yes, I will hold you up and retain you with My [victorious] right hand of rightness and justice. Matthew 28 (Amplified Bible)
20Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you [a]all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. [c]Amen (so let it be).
20Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you [a]all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. [c]Amen (so let it be).
Eleutherios
New member
Yes you can prove that the Saturnalian Abrahamic God Jews - muslims and christians worship represents nothing more than a false authority, their god is basically their religious misleaders. You can't prove something that doesn't exist doesn't exist, but you can show where these beliefs came from and what they were based upon... just because Christians are in denial and most would be too ignorant to understand it if I did explain it to them, doesn't mean it isn't so...
"If you are an atheist you do not want there to be a God so you rather disbelieve"
WRONG !
1. I don't care if there's a 'god' or not.
2. Right now I can't convince myself there is one cos there is NO evidence.
"I'm a christian"
I would never have guessed.
"Athiest[sic] you have no clue how this universe was created"
True BUT just cos I don't know, I don't need to resort to the old GODDIDIT thingie.
"We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe"
WRONG !
I can NOT 'decide' to believe in invisible space chappies.
It's nothing but superstitious nonsense; I find it ludicrous and pathetic simultaneously.
"We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created."
WRONG !
I am an atheist cos I'm not into invisible sky critters and for NO other reason.
Bertrand Russell: There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths.
Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting.
But he dares not face this thought!
Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed.
~
WRONG !
1. I don't care if there's a 'god' or not.
2. Right now I can't convince myself there is one cos there is NO evidence.
"I'm a christian"
I would never have guessed.
"Athiest[sic] you have no clue how this universe was created"
True BUT just cos I don't know, I don't need to resort to the old GODDIDIT thingie.
"We get information and theories and chose what we want to believe"
WRONG !
I can NOT 'decide' to believe in invisible space chappies.
It's nothing but superstitious nonsense; I find it ludicrous and pathetic simultaneously.
"We think your stupid based on atheist theories of how the universe was created."
WRONG !
I am an atheist cos I'm not into invisible sky critters and for NO other reason.
Bertrand Russell: There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths.
Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting.
But he dares not face this thought!
Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed.
~