>> ryan, the representative from wisconsin, remains solidly in crystal clear campaign focus. vice president joe biden is in virginia this morning. just getting ramped up there one day after he threw down the hammer on the record of the man who wants to take his job. so what's he saying today? let's listen in live.
>> they are both good men but they have fundamentally flawed judgment, in my view. they call their plan as bold and gutsy. it's bold. it's bold. but i don't get -- i mean this seriously now, i don't get what is gutsy about giving millionaires another tax break. i don't get what's gutsy. i don't get what's gutsy about gutting medicare and education to pay for that. that's not new. that's not new. it's not only not new. it's not fair. it's not fair to the middle class . it's not fair to the working poor and it will not grow this economy. ladies and gentlemen , we've seen this movie before. you've seen this before. and you know how it ends.
>> vice president biden staying on message, the same topic, the same conversation he had yesterday talking about it's not gutsy what the romney / ryan ticket represents. president obama will spend another day in iowa. he was joined there by paul ryan who moves on to colorado and nevada today after going on attack against the incumbent president. take a listen.
>> you know, but as you see the president come through on his bus tour, you might ask him the same question that i'm getting asked from people all around america, and that is, where are the jobs, mr. president?
>> so romney 's bus tour is going to take him to ohio from florida as he continues to downplay the differences between his own policies and his running mate's resume.
>> can you give us an idea of any principals in the ryan budget who have significant provisions with which you disagree?
>> i can tell you what is radical and extreme is to spend a trillion dollars more every year than you take in. well, the items that we agree on outweigh. we haven't gone through piece by piece and said, here's a place where we have a difference.
>> time to bring in our political panel. jonathan and jill , former spokesperson to transportation, tray lahood, and chip. jonathan , i want to start with you. the vice president is in virginia using the same phrases and do you think that message is going to resonate in the all important state of virginia ?
>> it will resonate in virginia and with the base as we've known since paul ryan was announced of the democratic party base has been against the alarm about what is in that budget specifically, the specifics that are in there. they've had a good test in there. when the ryan /romn budget , she used that against a hammer against a republican candidate in what was deemed a safe republican seat. so when you hear joe biden hammering away at the biden plan the way he is, it's about revving up the base and that's going to be very important, particularly in virginia because the president was the first president to win that state in decades and he's going to need that if he want to win re-election.
>> chip, real quickly. ryan 's plan would cut $5 million in ten year. as we talk about his proposals about his budget , we're off message. why is it that the ryan / romney budget been better about keeping on plan as to going on defense to what his resume brings?
>> i don't think you're going to see him bring defense. the united states senate hasn't passed a budget in three years. talking about the economy, you heard about that from paul ryan yesterday talking about when you see president obama 's bus tour, ask him, mr. president, where are the jobs? over the next 85 days i think you've seen a replay of what joe biden said today. and i think you're going to see the romney / ryan campaign hammer on unemployment and jobs and the economy because that's what this election is going to end up being about.
>> it's interesting, jill , newt gingrich was on "jansing & co." in the last hour with my colleague richard lui . listen to what he said.
>> any effort to frighten you is a dishonest disservice to america because it blocks us from having an honest dialogue about reform.
>> all right. so, jill , he is the one that started the phraseology about the ryan budget . he's backtracked that now. how do you answer those that say the democrats are engaging in the distraction?
>> the problem is, anybody who is a baby boomer and is heading towards retirement, anybody who has retired and counts on medicare and social security , they have a stake in this debate, in this presidential campaign and there's a fundamental, i think, lack of trust among the electorate, when they've looked to republicans to talk about these entitlement programs . yes, things need to be done to make them steady and to hold on to them for the future. but who is going to do that without throwing the baby out with the bath water and i think that's a big, big concern for a huge percentage of the population.
>> chip, politico had a piece and former mark mckinnon as saying, i think it's a bold pick and it means that romney / ryan can provide real direction and vision for the republican party and probably lose maybe big. when you hear that, what is your reaction to that? because obviously when we talk about leadership, it's about casting vision. it's about asking people to rise up to that vision but he's saying, you know, they might do that but they may lose big .
>> i disagree with my friend mark on that. i think this is a great opportunity with what's gone on in this economy to talk about the big issues that matter as opposed to rearranging the deck chair on the titanic. paul ryan knew that he was going to pass it and the house and senate would never take it up but he thought it was more important to have a conversation about entitlement reform in real term, not just bumper stickers . i think you're going to see the democratics talk about bumper sticker type honest solutions. you may not agree with all of them. i think this country is ready to go in bold leadership.
>> weren't we supposed to go that way, chip, in one direct?
>> every couple of years we seem to have this big conversation that we're going to fundamentally change government and we always tend to fall just a bit short. we always have hope and i think mitt romney and paul ryan are moving in the right direction on that. they really do have a wonderful opportunity to fundamentally change government as we know it.
>> jonathan , a usa gallup poll found 48% of people thought ryan was qualified to be president. would you say that ryan 's been worth all of the noise over the last few days?
>> i would think from mitt romney 's point of view, yes, he's worth the noise. look, compared to who was the vice presidential nominee four years ago, paul ryan is a light year's improvement. here's a hair of the house budget committee , someone who, whether you agree with his plan or disagree with his plan actually has a plan with some specifics in it that have been a lightning rod for conversation on both the left and the right. so the fact that paul ryan has a 48% approval rating is a good thing.
>> is it a good thing, though, when we consider what the approval rating of congress is you a how congress have a different view of themselves and how people have a different view of them as executives of congress and congressmen actually have records and those people have been elected have to atone for what they say yes and no to?
>> look, ryan is being touted for his medicare plan and ryan plan. as weeks go ahead, he's going to be accountable for all of the other things that he's done, said, voted on, voted against in minute detail. he's at 48% now. maybe he'll plunge down to the depths of the overall congressional approval rating which, last i heard was, what, 12%?
>> it's down there in the teens. the big news about the gop convention, the roles for chris christie and marco rubio . christie is going to give the keynote address. rubio is going to introduce romney . two people that were talked about being v.p. picks. how worried should the obama camp be that romney will get a solid bump from the convention?
>> i think every presidential candidate gets some sort of bump if they do it right from the convention. i'm sure that mitt romney is going to get some sort of bump. but then it's what happens after that. i think that both christie and rubio are extremely popular and they are going to try to lend their popularity to the candidate but that's what your going to try to hear for the entire convention. everybody is going to say why obama is bad and mitt romney is good and that's nothing new and then there's the sprint to elect day.
>> great to see all three of you. thanks for your time.
>> thanks, thomas snoop recent campaign
>> they are both good men but they have fundamentally flawed judgment, in my view. they call their plan as bold and gutsy. it's bold. it's bold. but i don't get -- i mean this seriously now, i don't get what is gutsy about giving millionaires another tax break. i don't get what's gutsy. i don't get what's gutsy about gutting medicare and education to pay for that. that's not new. that's not new. it's not only not new. it's not fair. it's not fair to the middle class . it's not fair to the working poor and it will not grow this economy. ladies and gentlemen , we've seen this movie before. you've seen this before. and you know how it ends.
>> vice president biden staying on message, the same topic, the same conversation he had yesterday talking about it's not gutsy what the romney / ryan ticket represents. president obama will spend another day in iowa. he was joined there by paul ryan who moves on to colorado and nevada today after going on attack against the incumbent president. take a listen.
>> you know, but as you see the president come through on his bus tour, you might ask him the same question that i'm getting asked from people all around america, and that is, where are the jobs, mr. president?
>> so romney 's bus tour is going to take him to ohio from florida as he continues to downplay the differences between his own policies and his running mate's resume.
>> can you give us an idea of any principals in the ryan budget who have significant provisions with which you disagree?
>> i can tell you what is radical and extreme is to spend a trillion dollars more every year than you take in. well, the items that we agree on outweigh. we haven't gone through piece by piece and said, here's a place where we have a difference.
>> time to bring in our political panel. jonathan and jill , former spokesperson to transportation, tray lahood, and chip. jonathan , i want to start with you. the vice president is in virginia using the same phrases and do you think that message is going to resonate in the all important state of virginia ?
>> it will resonate in virginia and with the base as we've known since paul ryan was announced of the democratic party base has been against the alarm about what is in that budget specifically, the specifics that are in there. they've had a good test in there. when the ryan /romn budget , she used that against a hammer against a republican candidate in what was deemed a safe republican seat. so when you hear joe biden hammering away at the biden plan the way he is, it's about revving up the base and that's going to be very important, particularly in virginia because the president was the first president to win that state in decades and he's going to need that if he want to win re-election.
>> chip, real quickly. ryan 's plan would cut $5 million in ten year. as we talk about his proposals about his budget , we're off message. why is it that the ryan / romney budget been better about keeping on plan as to going on defense to what his resume brings?
>> i don't think you're going to see him bring defense. the united states senate hasn't passed a budget in three years. talking about the economy, you heard about that from paul ryan yesterday talking about when you see president obama 's bus tour, ask him, mr. president, where are the jobs? over the next 85 days i think you've seen a replay of what joe biden said today. and i think you're going to see the romney / ryan campaign hammer on unemployment and jobs and the economy because that's what this election is going to end up being about.
>> it's interesting, jill , newt gingrich was on "jansing & co." in the last hour with my colleague richard lui . listen to what he said.
>> any effort to frighten you is a dishonest disservice to america because it blocks us from having an honest dialogue about reform.
>> all right. so, jill , he is the one that started the phraseology about the ryan budget . he's backtracked that now. how do you answer those that say the democrats are engaging in the distraction?
>> the problem is, anybody who is a baby boomer and is heading towards retirement, anybody who has retired and counts on medicare and social security , they have a stake in this debate, in this presidential campaign and there's a fundamental, i think, lack of trust among the electorate, when they've looked to republicans to talk about these entitlement programs . yes, things need to be done to make them steady and to hold on to them for the future. but who is going to do that without throwing the baby out with the bath water and i think that's a big, big concern for a huge percentage of the population.
>> chip, politico had a piece and former mark mckinnon as saying, i think it's a bold pick and it means that romney / ryan can provide real direction and vision for the republican party and probably lose maybe big. when you hear that, what is your reaction to that? because obviously when we talk about leadership, it's about casting vision. it's about asking people to rise up to that vision but he's saying, you know, they might do that but they may lose big .
>> i disagree with my friend mark on that. i think this is a great opportunity with what's gone on in this economy to talk about the big issues that matter as opposed to rearranging the deck chair on the titanic. paul ryan knew that he was going to pass it and the house and senate would never take it up but he thought it was more important to have a conversation about entitlement reform in real term, not just bumper stickers . i think you're going to see the democratics talk about bumper sticker type honest solutions. you may not agree with all of them. i think this country is ready to go in bold leadership.
>> weren't we supposed to go that way, chip, in one direct?
>> every couple of years we seem to have this big conversation that we're going to fundamentally change government and we always tend to fall just a bit short. we always have hope and i think mitt romney and paul ryan are moving in the right direction on that. they really do have a wonderful opportunity to fundamentally change government as we know it.
>> jonathan , a usa gallup poll found 48% of people thought ryan was qualified to be president. would you say that ryan 's been worth all of the noise over the last few days?
>> i would think from mitt romney 's point of view, yes, he's worth the noise. look, compared to who was the vice presidential nominee four years ago, paul ryan is a light year's improvement. here's a hair of the house budget committee , someone who, whether you agree with his plan or disagree with his plan actually has a plan with some specifics in it that have been a lightning rod for conversation on both the left and the right. so the fact that paul ryan has a 48% approval rating is a good thing.
>> is it a good thing, though, when we consider what the approval rating of congress is you a how congress have a different view of themselves and how people have a different view of them as executives of congress and congressmen actually have records and those people have been elected have to atone for what they say yes and no to?
>> look, ryan is being touted for his medicare plan and ryan plan. as weeks go ahead, he's going to be accountable for all of the other things that he's done, said, voted on, voted against in minute detail. he's at 48% now. maybe he'll plunge down to the depths of the overall congressional approval rating which, last i heard was, what, 12%?
>> it's down there in the teens. the big news about the gop convention, the roles for chris christie and marco rubio . christie is going to give the keynote address. rubio is going to introduce romney . two people that were talked about being v.p. picks. how worried should the obama camp be that romney will get a solid bump from the convention?
>> i think every presidential candidate gets some sort of bump if they do it right from the convention. i'm sure that mitt romney is going to get some sort of bump. but then it's what happens after that. i think that both christie and rubio are extremely popular and they are going to try to lend their popularity to the candidate but that's what your going to try to hear for the entire convention. everybody is going to say why obama is bad and mitt romney is good and that's nothing new and then there's the sprint to elect day.
>> great to see all three of you. thanks for your time.
>> thanks, thomas snoop recent campaign