Bratva?

[Raymond]

Does anybody else recognize this name from anywhere? Does it happen to be from one of Backie's websites? If so, you just might be as confused as I am.

I've seen this name tons of times on each of Backie's websites. I don't know why the name is at the bottom of every page on PeekInside and OnASoapbox, but they happen to be there. It also comes with a nifty URL that takes you to a page saying "Coming Soon". It looks like there's three days left for its "grand opening".

What could it be about? Does anybody have any ideas? :ermm:

 

[wolfbane]

I was mentioning how they functioned,whether you like it or not

and seriously, how long does it take to get experienced in torrenting,takes a week max

Getting experienced as in knowing how to torrent and knowing seeding back and stuff like that etc takes less than a week but unfortunately I dont see '1 week' experienced member getting invited to some good trackers out there.Why is that?Talking about your own site,how many '1 week' torrenters and 'noobs' get entry there? Why is the invite system so tight? Its a tracker after all right?

Experienced torrenters can be a right pain in the arse

Experienced members are a pain in the ass because they are not the newbs they were once who were looking to get invited by pleasing people around them.They know better and hence they make opinions.

that tracker does it like this, why cant you do it like that, because we are not them sheesh.

Maybe its because one of the trackers system is better and people like to see improvements in the tracker they like?

 

[Belial]

Hey, FST running a tracker, that sounds interesting. I could probably do 90% of the work for it, and with FST behind it it could be very interesting lol.

But based on all the other things Backie has done I will not touch that site.

 

[blossy c]

Well from what I heard, they closed down before because they got infiltrated, then they closed down again, because one of their members was selling DVDs and they closed as a precaution, so yes really trustworthy members, all I am saying is, it doesnt matter how small/secure/safe you think a tracker is, there will always be some undesirables get in.



One word, Oink, as soon he that got busted i think most trackers went underground, We are going to open again soon, but altinertia wants to get the tracker looking nice, and any bugs fixed first.

Getting experienced as in knowing how to torrent and knowing seeding back and stuff like that etc takes less than a week but unfortunately I dont see '1 week' experienced member getting invited to some good trackers out there.Why is that?Talking about your own site,how many '1 week' torrenters and 'noobs' get entry there? Why is the invite system so tight? Its a tracker after all right?

I dont mind opinions, i just hate, such and such a tracker does this, why dont you, i dont care what other trackers do, just like i am sure they couldnt give a toss what we do. and that answers both of your quotes.

 

[R.status]

its new site of torrents.
it is going to work bit like cn, but with no "i'm God" secrecy.

 

[chillax]

He has been in trackers such as UK-T and the likes

What does that have to do with anything? I'm throwing a serious question out there, not trolling at all.

As for the FST tracker thing, I'm sure it would be worse than any dream RachelFaith has ever had. Seriously, imagine the amount of people that will pour in to help, with all sorts of experience.

 

[dedido13]

sheesh,completely misunderstood and then kept on ranting.Not everything is to do with levels and rarity you know.There are things called friendship and trust as well.It seems you are more concious of rarity when I didnt even mention something like that.Just curious,are you in the above mentioned trackers?

Oh please, I understood it perfectly. I wasn't aiming it at you at all, more at the member who was calling backie out for being a UK-T member. That and the fact that people do measure your "success" by how many levels you have under your belt. If nobody did, the TPS Captain forum wouldn't be so lust worthy, THIS forum wouldn't exist, the above comment wouldn't be made, you see what I mean.

Now for a comment aimed at what you said:

As for the friendships/trust, that's a joke too. Maybe given the times it's a bad example, but look at where wall-e got, simply because trackers were happy he isn't screwing them over, or some other sort of that mentality. How many trackers would actually be "friendly" with an ex-trader. Whether you believe it or not, they are getting on his good side, not the other way around.

Let me give you an example that the friendship crap is out of the question: If you so much as requested FTN/FSC/iTS/whatever tracker you were looking for when ScT was going down, you had someone helping you out. I dropped one request for BCG (no offense, stoi) and got about 10 PM's, all ready to send me the referral code (blissful November, before the referral shortage). Coming from me: I don't have that many "friends" in the BT world. Do I talk to people? Yes. Do I joke with people? Yes. Do I trust people? No. For all you care everyone around you could be wearing a mask, and I don't understand "friendship" in online terms. Trust/respect? Perhaps. However, I still get in wherever I want, because some people fancy big numbers.

To answer your last question, I was a member of UK-T for a day (before it went down). I still am a noob.

PS: Sorry if anyone reading this knows me and feels offended that I don't understand an online friendship.

 

[dulcrayon]

Wrong

A Western Samoa Domain that always instills me with confidence. Western Samoa along with Tonga, Tokelau and others basically giveaway the Domains in the hope that the increased internet traffic will generate cashflow.

Actually a WS domain costs more than a .com, generally thats the way it works with the barely used TLDs. If fuckers didn't take the god damn .com .net .org for bratva and sit on it for 10 yrs hoping it would sell, I would have gotten one of them.

I doubt it. Backie's all about freedom and (from what I've heard) he'll let you get away with just about anything he wants. He has been in trackers such as UK-T and the likes, but I want to see if they actually have what it takes to run a tracker. It's not an easy task. Having to find traders and ratio cheaters will be the hard part for them, but why does it have to worry us?

Shit if I run a tracker I ain't gonna be worrying about no god damn traders or cheaters. One single rule "No uploading viruses/malware/adware." is the way I would roll.

To be honest you guys are most likely gonna be disappointed in what goes up on the 1st.

 

[Queen Kira]

That's what I thought at first, but when I used this link, I automatically assumed that it was going to be a new invite forum of some sort.

 

[Double J]

What does that have to do with anything? I'm throwing a serious question out there, not trolling at all.

It shows he is not a newb

 

[heyhey15]

It shows he is not a newb

Absolutely wrong. I'm sure a lot more people would agree with me here. If you're at a tracker, no matter the rarity/difficulty of getting in, and a friend of yours (say a newbie to the torrenting world) asks you to get invited somewhere, chances are you'll invite him to that tracker. You wouldn't think "Oh man, but this tracker isn't for newbs." You'd say "God, hope he enjoys this tracker as much as I do!"

Backie is not a "newb" simply because he actually has valid opinions, but judging that someone is not a rookie just because they're on say FTWR/UK-T etc. or now it's FSC/iTS/E is just setting yourself up for ridicule. You can be a complete unknown and still make it anywhere given that you know the right people. I have a friend who lived with me over the course of a summer once, whose brother happened to be a UK-T member, simply because he ran into the right person, at the right bar, and said the right things. You never know.

What I'm getting at is: Rarity/difficulty to get into should stop being used as a measure of how successful you are, but more about how delusional about security you actually are. Take Stoi of BCG for example, he understand this perfectly.

 

[Heiress]

You and me are different


thats not the case in FST.One reason I like this place.also you cant avoid people like that and you should not be hurt as well,they are morons anyway.

Let me give you an example that the friendship crap is out of the question: If you so much as requested FTN/FSC/iTS/whatever tracker you were looking for when ScT was going down, you had someone helping you out. I dropped one request for BCG (no offense, stoi) and got about 10 PM's, all ready to send me the referral code (blissful November, before the referral shortage).

You showed them your epeen and some other morons gave you invites.So?How does that make friendship crap?And who told you that friendship is all about invites?

BCG:

Invites are called referrals and they are given automatically to members that meet the following requirements:

Torrents with a Global Ratio of 1 >= 50
Torrents with an Actual Ratio of 1 >= 25
Torrents with an Actual Ratio of 1.5 >= 10
Torrents with an Actual Ratio of 2 >= 5
Your own uploaded torrents, this encompasses requests filled and own torrents in your table >= 2
Average Seeding Time >= 10 days
Member 6 months
50 gig downloaded

There is also a referral request thread in the forums for which you would need:

- at least a member for 6 months
- no HnRs
- up to 2 "seeded HnRs"
- actual ratio of 0.5

 

[oddanimal13]

A Western Samoa Domain that always instills me with confidence. Western Samoa along with Tonga, Tokelau and others basically giveaway the Domains in the hope that the increased internet traffic will generate cashflow.

And on connecting to the site backie's bud frylock is an administrator :glag:

 

[Dagger_SA]

You showed them your epeen and some other morons gave you invites.So?How does that make friendship crap?And who told you that friendship is all about invites?

Dont put fsc on the same boat as others.

You're reading way too deep in my post, when I laid it all out there. I never said friendship is all about invites.

Once you stop trying to misconstrue the meaning of my post, you'll find that in my opinion, "Friendship is crap" simply because of the reasons I outlined above. People invite people based on their ratios, their reputation, where they ask, and what mask they wear. Do some get in based on personality/friendliness? Of course, I would never deny that. But most people wear a mask, act benevolent, act helpful or act in some certain way to get to their ends. Can you deny that? There are a lot more people inviting "friends" based on their seedboxes, rather than on how much of a genuinely pleasant addition they would be to the community they're being invited to. You can't deny that one, either. When I said "friendship is crap" I didn't mean the concept of friendship, rather that the concept that "friendship used as a reason for invitation is crap" simply because you can never actually know the person you are inviting. As seen by recent TPS events, people who were respected everywhere, showed a different side to themselves that nobody knew about.

As for FSC, I'm not going to judge, but I'm going to throw this out simply: As an honest person, I will admit to looking at the screenshots on peekinsi.de and I have (as I already knew I would) seen all the usual names there, Lex/Krycer etc. Now, I'm not jabbing at anyone but were these members invited there because of the "You're such a close friend of mine I want you to be here with me, and enjoy this tracker as much as I do" mentality or were they invited because "Oh man, you're such an active person on **** tracker, I'd love if you showed some activity here." Only their inviters/staff/whoever know, but if you peel back a few layers of honesty, you'll find it's the latter.

PS: I'm not "friendless"; I've occasionally met people that I heartily enjoy speaking to on the torrent scene. Two stick out in mind especially, where I ended up regretting not knowing them in real life/going for drinks etc.

 

[dyn4mik3]

There are mistake in banner (Bravta)...
It's a catchy name. Next forum/tracker will be Brigada with Belij on a banner :lol:

 

[thursdaylsr]

What I'm getting at is: Rarity/difficulty to get into should stop being used as a measure of how successful you are, but more about how delusional about security you actually are. Take Stoi of BCG for example, he understand this perfectly.

I agree 100% with this statement, and the argument about being part of rare tracker is true. I knew a guy who was part of FTWR, we were great buds online and he invited me there. It was like my second torrent site, and I was a newb back than, but I enjoyed the site til it's death.

 

[xr200dirtrider1121]

also, but has small tracker hidden.

 

[In God we trust.]

friendship used as a reason for invitation is crap

Now that I agree with.

and I agree with you on the latter as well.there will always be cases like that also."No community is immune to hard core collectors" .sorry man I cant even read properly.11:30 here and slee

P.S: Discussions went way of topic.Anyway lets see what Bratva is.lol

 

[Steven P]

back then only trusted members were given a chance and about 95% of members in that tracker were people who were involved in the BT community in some way or the other for a decent amount of time.As a whole the tracker gives a vibe of experienced torrenters with newbies a minority.You can argue all you want otherwise.
And why are you bringing all the rarity crap?I was talking more on the lines of experience.In BT if you didnt know,a person trusts you by knowing you more and by your activities in BT.It takes time to know people and that is called 'experience' he is gaining.No one is going to invite any tom dick and harry especially to a tracker which they are proud to be in and enjoy.Newbies who get into a community oriented tracker like UK-T must be a trusted guy or a real life friend,so that the inviter knows he wont screw up.then again real life friends who torrent are a big minority and trusted people are 'experienced' people in BT.I hope that is clear

Backie is not a "newb" simply because he actually has valid opinions, but judging that someone is not a rookie just because they're on say FTWR/UK-T etc. or now it's FSC/iTS/E is just setting yourself up for ridicule. You can be a complete unknown and still make it anywhere given that you know the right people. I have a friend who lived with me over the course of a summer once, whose brother happened to be a UK-T member, simply because he ran into the right person, at the right bar, and said the right things. You never know.

What I'm getting at is: Rarity/difficulty to get into should stop being used as a measure of how successful you are, but more about how delusional about security you actually are. Take Stoi of BCG for example, he understand this perfectly.

sheesh,completely misunderstood and then kept on ranting.Not everything is to do with levels and rarity you know.There are things called friendship and trust as well.It seems you are more concious of rarity when I didnt even mention something like that.Just curious,are you in the above mentioned trackers?

 

[Cranberry<3]

I love this experienced torrent user crap, and you make UK-T sound like the holy grail of torrent sites, RAB it was only a tracker.

and seriously, how long does it take to get experienced in torrenting, a week max, we were all noobs at one point, and thats the one thing I miss about being closed, the noobs, I love helping them and seeing them turn into bloody good members.

Experienced torrenters can be a right pain in the arse, that tracker does it like this, why cant you do it like that, because we are not them sheesh.

I would rather have noobs any day, at least they may use the tracker.