Bone movie to use motion capture

Every-time I hear about a new motion-capture film, I think "Maybe this will be the one they get right". That said, I wish they would experiment with something else, and adapt Bone with something that's actually made some good films (like, you know, almost any other technique)
 
Blergh. I know why this happened - ever since Avatar beat the snot out of The Princess and the Frog, now shallow-minded Hollywood thinks people prefer mo-cap over 2-D animation. Thanks, Disney, thanks for shooting the entire animation industry in the foot.
 
I know they made a fine movie. That's my point - more people would have gone to see it if those dopes at Disney hadn't put it up against James flippin' Cameron. This isn't 1992, Disney movies aren't forces to reckon with anymore.

But I digress. We were talking about Bone, weren't we? If this ever gets finished, I still don't think I'll go to see it. Bone is such a complex story, trying to condense it into a movie would be absolutely impossible.
 
Actually there are some rumors that Warner Bros. might make Bone into a trilogy, but that hasn't been confirmed yet.

Either way I'm not happy by the recent news, I wouldn't mind if Bone was done in CGI (although I prefer hand-drawn) but doing it in Motion Capture? that's just wrong!
 
I have appropriated this thread as the talkback for the TZ news article about the Bone movie and the Goon movie, but didn't change the title to the full talkback thread format because the Bone news seems to be the big attention grabber of all of it if you weren't already interested.

Either way, I find that mocap (and rotoscoping) tends to work best when it's used to convert a human character into something entirely other. The best characters in Beowulf were Grendel and the dragon, and I think Appleseed and Appleseed Ex Machina worked because they made their mocap characters look more like stereotypical anime characters than realistic people. However, given that, I think that might just mean that the Bones and the Stupid Stupid Rat Creatures will look great and Thorn will look like a blind zombie mannequin.

However, it's Animal Logic, and they did Happy Feet (which also used mocap-ish techniques to do the dancing, didn't it?). Need to see it before I can really say one way or the other.
 
I didn't even know they were going to make a Bone film, I'm indifferent to how it'll be animated as long as I can reconise the characters and it isn't 'tuded up, I don't want to hear Fone say "Bow chika wow wow".
 
As an actress, I find motion capture exciting and wondrous! I find the biggest issue is that no one's really taking risks with it. It's a bit boring and stiff. I wouldn't notice the eyes if there was just a bit more action and liveliness in the performances.

I agree with Ed Liu, it looks best when they're not people.
 
Wow.
He tried his hardest to get it into 2D instead of 3D, and they gone off with an even worse option.

However with the way technology is done maybe it won't be TOO bad.
I hope.

All I can say is that it will be a long time (if ever) that 2D feature films will make its comeback in America.
And one movie (Princess and the Frog) doesn't count.
 
I'd love Miyazaki to take a crack at this. This story cries out for 2D animation with as little CGI enhancements as possible, like Ponyo or something. Jeff Smith's artwork is just so beautifully simple and iconic, it doesn't need to get mocapped.
 
I give the movie going public, and the pea brained Hollywood execs a big slice of 'shattered dream pie' for killing 2D animation in favor of motion capture. Just because some new advanced technique comes along, and impresses people doesn't mean it's the 'end all, be all', and that the older techniques have to be put out to pasture! Not everything has to be done in 3D!
 
I'd love Miyazaki to take a crack at Bone as well, but with the full understanding that the final product really isn't going to be Jeff Smith's Bone any more, just as Kiki's Delivery Service and Howl's Moving Castle share similarities with their source material, but also take rather significant liberties.

Also, there is not "little CGI enhancement" in Ponyo, there is NO CGI in Ponyo (which surprised the heck out of me as well, and which you'd know if you'd been keeping up with Miyazaki Week religiously like all good rabroad members, neh? :)).
 
I was aware that Ponyo had no CG enhancements. I should have worded that more carefully. I meant having the Bone feature having as little CG as possible like Ponyo.
 
A Bone movie would not be cheap and a studio isn't going to invest $100 million or more into something hand-drawn anymore.

I just worry about studios mucking with the story and trying to make Bone into something it isn't.
 
My thoughts: I know this might tick some guys off,but this was the only way I could see a Bone movie happen. 2D is obviously dead(for now). CGI: no because it would still be too cartoony. What I'm getting at is that only the Bones and the rat creatures were cartoony. The others like Rose , Grandma Ben, Luicius were - to me- realistic. And the only way I could see it being pulled off in Mo-Cap. The thought of them making this decision only because of Avatar's success is greedy,malicious, & flat-out evil. Oh, wait, I just remembered..... this is Hollywood we're talking about.
 
What really hocks me off is that 2-D doesn't have to be dead. Audiences didn't kill it, the studios did. It's the suits at Disney who arbitrarily decided that the technique was responsible for the failure of their films, not things like story or marketing.

Is there any particular reason why it has to be this way? Is CGI more cost effective or something? Or is this just yet another case of Hollywood not understanding the appeal of Pixar, and deciding "Oh, their movies are great because they're made on computers, let's all copy them"?
 
Exactly! Studios would rather commit suicide than admit their movie was a failure. I will :lol: so much at the irony of when a CGI movie will fail, so studios will bring back 2D.
But can we get back on topic,please? I'm sure there's a thread somewhere about 2D vs 3D.
 
Also since there's rumours of Bone being a trilogy here's what I think it should be (each movie is based on three books).
Bone
Out of Boneville
The Great Cow Race
Eyes of The Storm
Bone 2: Desprate Journey
The Dragonslayer
Rock Jaw:Master of the Eastern Border
Old Man's Cave
Bone 3: The Last Stand
Ghost Circles
Treasure Hunters
Crown of Horns
 
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