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Heather Conley

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The advice I got from my salesman at the ducati dealer/longtime duc owner is to get a caliper lock. This will visually deter the lazy thiefs that don't wanna put in the effort, which is most people in a parking lot. If someone wants your bike, they are gonna get it; bottom line. A newer trick is some guys will pick up the front end and put the tire on skateboard and wheel the bike away, caliper lock won't help with this, but neither will most anything else. I think insurance is the best thing you can do nowadays. If you do catch one of them, shoot em in the knee cap!
 
I'm a gun owner too, but that just doesn't hold water. First off, unless the thief is in your house when he's taking the bike, you're going to jail for murder. You right to own a weapon is to protect your life, not your motorcycle. And to be honest, I'm not sure I'd take a life to save my bike. To protect my wife? Sure, you're dead. I've had the misfortune of seeing a person shot in the head. I don't ever want to see it again. I'm not going to do it unless I HAVE to. If I'm holding a gun and you're taking my bike, and my life isn't in danger, I'd rather just call the insurance agent and wish the thief luck with his new motorcycle.

Plus, I've very sorry to say, guns just aren't that effective to prevent bike theft. A good thief can have you're bike gone long before you get a shot off. It's a lovely thought that you have a gun in your nightstand, and now no one can take your stuff. It's just not accurate. Any thief worth his salt is going to wait until your not home. Then, he's just going to steal your guns too. Unless your guns are mounted on turrets that fire automatically, they're not going to stop someone unless you're there to shoot them.

I stand by my original opinion. Keep good insurance paid up. That's about as safe as you're going to get. Have all the alarms, guns, dogs, and whatever you want. If the thief want is bad enough, he can just tazer you at a red light and take it. Engine's already running, alarm is disarmed, dogs and guns are at home. You're laying in the street in a puddle of your own urine watching your bike ride off. If they want it, they're gonna get it. ;-)
 
Well personally I think bike out of site, locked down to something, good insurance and play with the stats (Barking Dog #1 deturnent, u can look that one up, I'm not making it up and it's not my opinion, and that's prob why dogs been our best friend past 10,000 yrs).

Not everyone can have all of these but my advice is the more u can use, the better. Great insurance isn't cheap and after one claim, they hold it against you and it takes a bit to get the $ for a new bike after a claim.

I build homes and I've had them ripped off. Insurance was a joke every single time. Investigation, deductable, problems after you make a claim trying to get new insurance. My brother and I now use fence, dogs, lights, and sometimes we hire a night gaurd too along with insurance. No problems so far.

If I can give any advice it would be to try and keep my bike with everything that's semi easy. Locks, dogs, out of sight, big stick, whatever it takes. I don't know any thief that tries the hard ones first. And I'm sorry but I just flat out hate a thief, I can only hope to catch one. I'll let God sort out anything later.

I know too from experience, but I do like to have good insurance, I don't think u always need the others. But sometimes I just am not going to be stupid and leave a bike out where it can just be picked up, I think any lock is better than none at all, and if someone did break into my garage, I like the comfort of the .44 in my hand to ask them to leave.

I think most would leave to easier targets. I also like that I have two Akitas that bark at little thiefs around the hood and most don't want to come up to my house. Dogs are fun to walk and have around anyway.

Nice example was my house in Texas. Don't know what the intentions were, but a guy tried breaking in through back door. I had just gone to bed. I go out front door with small comfort, think it was a .22 in my hand.

Call my dog, two words, "sic 'em" and that guy started running and had his legs torn all up as he made it to his car. Didn't have to raise a finger. Aust. cattle dogs are like that, very smart. Scared as hell, but 50 min. later Sherrif showed up; and much to my relief asked a bunch of stupid questions like am I sure if there was someone there.

Went to sleep sound as a pound with dog back on the porch, gun on my pillow. Never another atempt after that. I now keep a gun with me everynight since.

I think Smith & Wesson is just one brand of good insurance; or at least good comfort. Ruger + State Farm, not a bad idea. Depends on where you live, but again, best advice is to make it hard to get.

My bikes are locked up right now on front porch, out of site, covered up. Dogs are ten feet away behind a fence. Tonight there must of been 15 cops chasing bad guys all around. Ducati is fine, Ninja is fine. If I have to ask someone to leave, even if they hold bolt cutters in their hands, I have a feeling I'll hold the upper hand with a Ruger.

I think tazer is more than I've ever heard when it comes to a thief, but I guess it could weird stuff can happend. Back in 1983, my neighbor did have two guys jump him at a circle K as he was getting on his bike. He was an Air Force Sgt. and pulled out his .45 on them. They both decided to leave right then. I think the line was " Get the Fuck off me or I'll blow your lips off" I did have to go to the hospital afterwords cause I spilt my side laughing so hard. If you could of seen it, well your opinion might change.
 
Wow, times are getting hard I guess. Two women, yes those female types, just tried to carjack a guy about 1/2 mile from where I live. The women had handguns, and pulled them on the guy. One of the females actually fired at the man, gun dryfired (didn't go off).

He too had a gun, pulled his gun (here in Arizona it's legal to carry if it's in a holster, or hidden if you have the proper permit) and shot one of them in the neck and shoulder.

Dude got to keep his car, cops let him on his way, both women now behind bars. Hmmm, Nitsuj just thinking about that line....somehow I think it holds lots of water here in the desert. How ironic.

"I'm a gun owner too, but that just doesn't hold water. First off, unless the thief is in your house when he's taking the bike, you're going to jail for murder. You right to own a weapon is to protect your life, not your motorcycle."
 
You're taking what I said out of context. I was speaking about the notion of popping a thief in the leg to stop him from stealing a bike. Of course, if someone pulls a gun on you, it's game on. Draw and fire. But if you see a guy riding away on your bike, and he's not aiming a gun at you, try shooting him. You'll go to jail. I assure you. Even in AZ. My point was, you may only use your gun to protect your life, not your property. In your example, the shooter was justified because he was protecting his life and his property. If the jackers weren't armed, he wouldn't have been sent on his way.
 
Down here in FL we have the castle doctrine. It states that the fact that a person has entered your house (against your wishes) you are to assume that he/she intends to do you great bodily harm. You are therefore justifiable in shooting them regardless of whether or not they have any weapon (some people can do just as much damage with their fists as they can with a gun, don't take any chances with your life). This law also extends to you car as well. So down here even if they don't have a weapon, just trying to enter your car can earn a carjacker a ventilated chest cavity. Hopefully this will make would be carjackers think twice.

Texas has the same law and about 1 or 2 years ago some old guy saw someone breaking into his neighbors house while they were on vacation. Old guy grabs his shotgun and confronts the crook (after calling 911 and telling them he was going outside to kill a burglar, very smart guy). Long story short, old guy shoots the thief (in the back) on the front lawn while he was trying to flee killing him. Even after all that; not his property, premeditation, he was never charged with a crime.

While this case is a bit extreme it proves that sometimes it is nice to live in the South where the innocent civilians have more rights than criminals.

Cpt. DB
 
like u guys brought up, firearm laws vary from state to state.

here in hawaii, u can only shoot in self defense, if u think the guy will cause u bodily harm. it's pretty much run, retreat, and only use it as the last means of protection. i just got cert'd as an NRA instructor, so i'm having to review the laws. as i understand, under hawaii laws even if u shoot in self defense (clean n clear) u will still get arrested and go through the process.

insurance is the best way to go. if they want it that bad, they will get it.
 
California has the same law as FL, you wake up, guy is in your house uninvited, he means you harm. Case closed.

I had one of those when I lived in LA.
 
+1

my point to begin w. Take all or many ways to protect yourself, loved ones, etc. Primary ideals of survival for the ummm past..uhh 4 million years? 65 million?

How did Hitler get it all his bs going? We are so retarded. How about we pass a law to outlaw unlawful behavior?

Then we can do away with insurance, guns, alarms, dogs, big sticks, cameras, etc. or just carry of many of these to begin w that ur ALLOWED TO and hope the Duc stays put when u park it.
 
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