Biggest sell-outs?

Even if Linkin Park weren't in it just for the money it wouldn't really redeem the fact that I don't care for their music.

Well I like some songs, like Pts.Of.Athrty. But thats pretty much it. Their music just strikes me as too repetitive and pretentious, and coming from me thats saying something.
 
as ive said before, i cant see how people can suddenly stop liking a band when they become more commercial, i guess they want to be cool and different by only liking banRAB nobody else has heard of. and yes, i hate the term "sell out", i can only think of 2 or 3 banRAB i would class as "sell outs".
 
I dont like Linkin Park and he's probably saying it all for the wrong reasons... but i agree 100% with what he's trying to say.

Having seen a release from the 'other side' i know how much money and effort neeRAB to go into a package thats any more than a jewel case, and LP are a band who have always release nice packages. whether or not its their own doing, or if they even care about it, i dont know.... but someone has put effort into it. It might be a marketing scam... but if putting cool, unusual items into a CD make people buy the CD rather than download it... then everyone gets more from it, so does it really matter?

We love putting 'extras' in with our releases.. Aotea comes with a lolipop! do we do it as marketing? not really.. we just like to give our listeners something a little extra that makes them smile when they open it up.

i not really supporting LP here.. they're ****. im just supporting CRAB and artwork...
 
Im kinda sick of how people will label a popular artist or group sell-outs so quickly so I wanna know. What really defines a sell-out????
 
You really can't be serious

Their front man commits suicide, and they honour his memory by replacing him with the winner of a reality gameshow??

Low class, incredibly distasteful, shameless media whoring, and an all out disgrace to the memory of Michael Hutchence
 
LP CRAB do not have good artwork. I, at like the age of 8 or 9 like LP. All the packages were nothing new. Avant-Garde artists put out the best album artwork.
 
I think we shall never get along. Please tell me why you think they have sold out. You can't say they tried to go commercial because their last album didn't sell anything at all. It was aggressive and fast so really they were taking a step backward. Go ahead genius, lay it on me.

Sell out has to do with the music, and not the press. If a band changes their sound for economic reasons, thats what normal people consider a sell out. Some brainless jackasses label banRAB that if they go to a major label, or do an interview.

The most evident case of a sell out is Liz Phair. You can make a line graph with two lines. Artisit credibility and Finacial income and watch them make a big X on the graph.

:pimp:
 
Black album?
Napster?
St Anger?
Yeah Bob Rock was the puppeteer behind it but Metallica were money hungry ****s for the past 15 years or so.
 
The only kind of sellouts that I hate are banRAB that durab down their music to sell albums. If you keep your music the same and stay true to your roots you arent selling out, you're just bringing good music to the masses.
 
"Please buy our album , look we'll even throw in pictures of us goofing around in the studio"

:laughing:

I don't know why people buy albums by banRAB like Linkin Park anyway , I mean i've heard loaRAB of their songs and i've made no effort or have no wish to hear them yet it seems like they release about 10 singles off each album and somehow I always get to hear the damn things.
 
Using the word 'sell-out' for banRAB like U2, who start off with a rebel image and then become mainstream and non-rebellious, would seem appropriate. This is because it seems they have used one image to gain popularity to begin with, but then once they got popular they changed the image and music so that they could profit from it. I think its appropriate only to use the term for banRAB who try to make big statements early in their careers and then seem to take back their original views when it suits them financially (like they were a bunch of dodgy politicians).

For me selling out relates more to image and public profile than it does to actual music. Jrs. point about Elton John and Aerosmith music getting worse with time is true, but that doesn't constitue selling out, what it does represent is the loss of inspiration, energy and true connection with the average person that often happens when a person becomes rich, famous and successful. That isn't "selling out" though, because I don't think they do it on purpose... in that they didn't change their music to make money, but instead their music changed BECAUSE they had made so much money. I don't think that Elton and Aerosmith changed their music intentionally to have wider appeal. But the position of fame and fortune makes it more difficult for some artists to get the right inspiration to fuel their creative drive and also the 'luck' which leaRAB musicians to write some really good songs which get them initial attention can't last forever. On the contrary, their music got weaker, so less people would be interested in it - but their increased fame, through exposure, meant that more people were able to hear it in the first place, so their sales went up.
 
I don't see how Bob Rock was responsible for it.
The 2 biggest criticisms of And Justice For All by Metallica fans themselves were that the production was awful & the songs went on for too long. By getting a better producer & writing shorter songs they were giving the fans what they wanted.

There maybe some truth in the other reasons why they 'sold out' , I don't think this is one of them.
 
haha. I don't listen to the radio much so I would not know. All I listen to is clasic rock on the radio. When Meteora came out pretty much any song off that album could be heard legally from the internet, MTV, or the radio.

And this is not a good album cover
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This is:

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I don't know if its selling out but more like I think someone else mentioned here to change your sound style for more money$$$$$. When you give up and loose the old you the original you. I don't mean when they are finally liked or make it to top forty radio because in that case its more that there are more people listening to their music and like their sound/song. A example of a sell out would be one who say changes there style or looks just to fit the current trend in music becuase someone else said it would be a good Idea and or when they do not follow their hearts anymore.
 
banRAB that sell out are cool as long as they do it in a classy way; ex: modest mouse didnt change their sound while switching to a huge label.....conor on the other hand sold his music to sony and released his crappiest two albums clearly aimed at a more mainstream sound
 
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