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Chestnuts"? was ordained by him? If it was, that Yahweh is one kinky dude......
"Once he became Pope Alexander VI, Vatican parties, already wild, grew wilder. They were costly, but he could afford the lifestyle of a Renaissance prince; as vice chancellor of the Roman Church, he had amassed enormous wealth. As guests approached the papal palace, they were excited by the spectacle of living statues: naked, gilded young men and women in erotic poses. Flags bore the Borgia arms, which, appropriately, portrayed a red bull rampant on a field of gold. Every fete had a theme. One, known to Romans as the Ballet of the Chestnuts, was held on October 30, 1501. The indefatigable Burchard describes it in his Diarium. After the banquet dishes had been cleared away, the city's fifty most beautiful whores danced with the guests, "first clothed, then naked." The dancing over, the "ballet" began, with the Pope and two of his children in the best seats.
Candelabra were set up on the floor, scattered among them were chestnuts, "which", Burchard writes, "the courtesans had to pick up, crawling between the candles." Then the serious sex started. Guests stripped and ran out onto the floor, where they mounted, or were mounted by, the prostitutes. "The coupling took place," according to Burchard, "in front of everyone present." Servants kept score of each man's orgasms, for the Pope greatly admired virility, and measured a man's machismo by his ejaculative capacity. After eveyone was exhausted, His Holiness distributed prizes- cloaks, boots, caps, and fine silken tunics. "The winners", the diarist wrote, "were those who made love with the courtesans the greatest number of times."
A World Lit Only by Fire- The Medieval Mind and The Renaissance" .Little, Brown & Company, 1992
miss mouse--good use of humpty dumpty semantics!! The church is good at it too as this is how they explain the "pope's role" in the church......they say he is directed by the "holy spirit"....but then....as the holy spirit is yahweh, that would still be yahweh!! So the holy spirit, the director of morality...."directed" this little "fete"!!!
"The Pope doesn't have a more direct pipeline to God other than prayer. However, when it comes to teaching as the Universal Pastor, a definitive truth about doctrine (Faith and Morals), he is prevented by the Holy Spirit from officially teaching error. This is called infallibility. It is limited to Faith and Morals and it is under specific circumstances. Moreover, it is not a direct line of communication like divine inspiration. Rather it is the Holy Spirit, preventing error from being taught."
"Once he became Pope Alexander VI, Vatican parties, already wild, grew wilder. They were costly, but he could afford the lifestyle of a Renaissance prince; as vice chancellor of the Roman Church, he had amassed enormous wealth. As guests approached the papal palace, they were excited by the spectacle of living statues: naked, gilded young men and women in erotic poses. Flags bore the Borgia arms, which, appropriately, portrayed a red bull rampant on a field of gold. Every fete had a theme. One, known to Romans as the Ballet of the Chestnuts, was held on October 30, 1501. The indefatigable Burchard describes it in his Diarium. After the banquet dishes had been cleared away, the city's fifty most beautiful whores danced with the guests, "first clothed, then naked." The dancing over, the "ballet" began, with the Pope and two of his children in the best seats.
Candelabra were set up on the floor, scattered among them were chestnuts, "which", Burchard writes, "the courtesans had to pick up, crawling between the candles." Then the serious sex started. Guests stripped and ran out onto the floor, where they mounted, or were mounted by, the prostitutes. "The coupling took place," according to Burchard, "in front of everyone present." Servants kept score of each man's orgasms, for the Pope greatly admired virility, and measured a man's machismo by his ejaculative capacity. After eveyone was exhausted, His Holiness distributed prizes- cloaks, boots, caps, and fine silken tunics. "The winners", the diarist wrote, "were those who made love with the courtesans the greatest number of times."
A World Lit Only by Fire- The Medieval Mind and The Renaissance" .Little, Brown & Company, 1992
miss mouse--good use of humpty dumpty semantics!! The church is good at it too as this is how they explain the "pope's role" in the church......they say he is directed by the "holy spirit"....but then....as the holy spirit is yahweh, that would still be yahweh!! So the holy spirit, the director of morality...."directed" this little "fete"!!!
"The Pope doesn't have a more direct pipeline to God other than prayer. However, when it comes to teaching as the Universal Pastor, a definitive truth about doctrine (Faith and Morals), he is prevented by the Holy Spirit from officially teaching error. This is called infallibility. It is limited to Faith and Morals and it is under specific circumstances. Moreover, it is not a direct line of communication like divine inspiration. Rather it is the Holy Spirit, preventing error from being taught."